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  1. On 11/10/2022 at 4:54 PM, PaoloT said:

    Luckily, Photoshop is still available for rent, and people who feel cheated by Serif can switch back again.

    Paolo

     

    Yup and now also need a subscription for Pantone again to work in Photoshop....

    Creatives who understandably want to continue using the industry-standard color system are expected to pay a $15 monthly / $90 annual subscription for a Pantone license via the Adobe Pantone Connect plugin.

  2. 21 minutes ago, chakko007 said:

    Same with your customers, unfortunately.

    I already wrote it a couple of times, you raised your prices by 60% from the original pricing for the Affinity apps. Just saying.

    Not saying that these apps are expensive by any stretch, it's just that they're not as inexpensive as they once were. FWIW. Power users probably spend it without any further thought.

    Nothing is as cheap as they were......Inflation for most European countries is way over 10% now...

  3. 42 minutes ago, LondonSquirrel said:

    It should not take that long, if they decided to do it. Perhaps it is not a priority for them. You seem to assume that they have decided to do it at all.

    I can see why footnotes, endnotes en sidenotes were given priority....Everybody was screaming for them.....Just a matter of priority...It might still come to v2.01.

    If you have limited manpower, you have to set priorities...It's not like Adobe that they have development teams for every new feature......

    As Adobe Certified Expert said, the first incarnations of Photoshop were far from perfect either. Give them time...

  4. 15 minutes ago, Adobe Certified Expert said:

    I worked with Adobe Phtoshop 1 (not cs1). It was terrible! There were bugs without end. Hundreds of functions, without which it seems impossible to survive today, were completely missing. I paid $895 for the Photoshop software "version 1" in 1990. 
    Editable text was available after the 5th version to pay for. At that time, foreign languages were still unthinkable! Between 800 and 1000 dollars each. And that was ONLY the price for Photoshop, not a suite.

    Today the Adobe Suite costs 743.40 euros - every year and if you don't pay, nothing works anymore.

    Is anyone here really upset because of a one-off cost of 120 euros? For a programm that is not perfect (neither is Photoshop), but which covers 95% of the functions of the three corresponding programmes?

    I am not. I think it's a very reasonable price given what you get...

    If you're used to other prices, this is a no brainer. Some  plug-ins for Photoshop were more expensive then the whole suite today. The plug-ins for Illustrator from Astute Graphics for instance, wich are brilliant, cost way more then the suite.....If you see everything in perspective, it's really not that bad at all.

     

    I already own v2...Now to get the grips of the new features...I am confident they will add more cool stuff to v2.......

  5. 32 minutes ago, chakko007 said:

    That's also apples and oranges.

    Especially as the prices for energy would have been avoidable, with a different policy.

    Anyway, I'll happily admit that you have a point saying that they're still reasonable prices compared to other software. Don't want to talk about "competition", because, as you say, both the Adobe and the Corel apps are much longer in development. 

    Nonetheless, for someone like me who isn't a power user, and specifically chose the Affinity apps for their low cost, 60% more costs is a bit hard to digest.

    By the way, don't get me wrong, I respect you guys for having a positive attitude towards these apps. Nothing worse than people who try to ruin everything. But, I definitely think there is a reason to criticize when the prices increase a lot in a short period of time. If I recall correctly, the apps were still prices 54,99 € a year or 1 1/2 years ago or so. It might not hurt you yet, but, who knows what these apps will cost in a year or two?

    buy the apps on sale....black friday is comming up soon or at christmas time....

  6. Just now, chakko007 said:

    Why do you compare apples to oranges? You compare a discounted price to a non discounted price.

    Already told you that I bought APhoto and ADesigner for 27 € each, which would be much less for all 3 apps.

    So did I at the time, but prices have gone up since 5 years have been past...I think it's quite reasonable considering prices of other companies.

     

    I Would like to pay prices of 20 years ago for gas and electrical bill but that is not going to happen, is it.Given situation at this point, it's a fair price.

  7. 4 minutes ago, chakko007 said:

    If you don't see the price increase of a software originally sold for 49,99 € to 84,99 € as it is sold now, then you're blindfold.

    We'll see what the Affinity apps' price is when they reached v24 or whatever Photoshop is now. ;)

    Anyway, I never thought that comparison is really fair. Not to Affinity, nor to the Adobe apps. It's kind of a desperate argument, when people try to find reasons for the one or the other.

    You are blindfolded. Introductory price is way less...€120 for 3 apps and universal license is a great deal....That's €40 per app, less then your original price...

     

    Prices might drop in time, as they have done in the past and lots of rebates...

  8. 2 minutes ago, Helmar said:

    I tend to support the small guys, knowing they don't offer everything the big guns do. But the big ones are the abusive ones, and Serif has thus far pleased me no end - feature- and price-wise. I'm happy to be Adobe-free, and I'm looking forward to more great Affinity features, while respecting the disappointment of those who expected more. For them there's always Adobe. 

    In terms of money, my financial support of Serif is a given, for obvious reasons. I'm grateful Affinity exists, and offers what it does. Here's to more!

    Not familiar with the latest boo boo of Adobe and Pantone? Pantone doesn't work anymore in the latest version of Photoshop unless you pay for a subscription to Pantone...

     

    Now that is rediculous.

  9. 6 minutes ago, chakko007 said:

     

    @HelmarIf you compare the price to the industry standard, yes. The question is, should you compare it to the industry standard. 

    I know they do a lot of marketing in that regard. But, IMO, the Adobe apps are still ahead in pretty much everything.

    They are also longer in development. Compare Adobe v2 to Affinity v2.....

  10. Just now, chakko007 said:

    I don't see everyone else raising the prices 60% of what the stuff originally cost.

    Apart from "Everything is more expensive" not really being a good argument, especially when you also have to make a living and justify the costs of the things you buy.

    Why not raise the prices another 100%? Everything is getting more expensive, so?

    Yeah, bad argument really.

    Not really, why should Serif not be able to raise prices when everybody else is doing it? Just to accomodate you?

    Gas and electrical bill is also more expensive for them, just like anybody else.....

  11. 2 minutes ago, chakko007 said:

    For what it's worth, I expected a paid upgrade (or, rather, a new paid version) at some point, and, I think it was also communicated. 

    What I don't like is that they raise and raise the prices though. I got the Affinity apps for their low costs, which was a big argument. It's getting smaller and smaller.

    Everything else is getting more expensive, so why shouldn't Afiinity raise prices? 

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