Thank you for the reply, I'm using Affinity designer, have created a vector brush but having drawn a fern image using the new brush stroke I want to then make it bigger and smaller in duplication, this of course cannot be down whilst the brush stroke remains as a stroke. Thought I might have been able to break the strokes down, after having made them, to outlines, but not had any luck so far!
Lovely programme though (note english/uk spelling!) I've used illustrator for twenty five years so this is taking a bit of getting used too - Adobe is too expensive for my needs now and Affinity Designer, other than the odd problem, is perfect for my occasional needs.