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PatrickOfLondon

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  1. Your point is well made and well understood. But at least the modern motorcycle still has a braking system, just like the old bicycle did – and probably an even more effective one... it hasn't completely thrown away its braking system, in the process of becoming "new". Anyway, that's enough moaning from a nostalgic PPX9 user. Let's hope November 9th brings enough benefits and features to keep (most) people happy. ☺️
  2. I just have to say, whenever I read someone praising PagePlus like this, I just have to echo the sentiment. Affinity Publisher still cannot match it for the three characteristics you mentioned.
  3. Likewise. I can understand why Serif / Affinity discontinued Page Plus X9 while they were hoping that Affinity Publisher would replace it in the market, but as AP still has not done so in certain functional areas, why not offer PP X9 as an old and unsupported but still viable alternative for certain types of user. When it became a legacy product it was on sale for about £20. Sell it at the same price as Affinity Publisher if you are fearful of taking too much away from Affinity Publisher sales — but at least offer it, while it still does the things that Affinity Publisher cannot do.
  4. Exactly the same place as me. Having tried to get to grips with Affinity Publisher, I have returned to and remained with PagePlus for the very reasons you eloquently describe.
  5. Pyanepsion, I am sure you must have reported this as a bug in the appropriate place. It's a very unacceptable "feature".
  6. Sadly, I can readily empathise with those sentiments, particularly about intuitiveness, and the subtle difference between (a) how a user might think of approaching something, and (b) how software might make it possible to achieve it, if indeed it does at all. Everyone has his or her own individual experience and expectations of using software. For some people, no doubt Affinity Publisher meets their needs excellently. My own experience echoes MJWHM’s. In my case, wanting to produce relatively uncomplicated documents, I came to Serif PagePlus, around 10 years ago, from Microsoft Publisher. In making that transition, I found the learning curve very steep and arduous, but in the end, it was worth it, because I found PagePlus so much richer in features and fine control over layout; and once you got used to it, it did feel reasonably intuitive. So it was that I came to Affinity Publisher from PagePlus. I wish I could say the same things about my experience of that transition, but regrettably, I can’t. I had expected a gentler and more gradual learning curve because the products were from the same company. But it has been neither particularly gentle nor particularly gradual, and much of the time it doesn’t seem worth continuing down the path, because to me, it seems so much more difficult or time-consuming to achieve what I want to do than it is in PagePlus. I bought all three Affinity products because I wanted – and still want – to support a small, ambitious, innovative, British company, and also (of course) because I like the price and the purchase model, rather than a subscription model. Affinity Photo is something I use frequently: I find it good value and effective, even if sometimes lacking something in intuitiveness. But for publications, I always still turn to PagePlus, and leave Affinity Publisher alone, gathering electronic dust. I do appreciate that this is a case of sticking to what you know rather than moving to a new place; but change can be good, if it makes life better. However, attempting to make the move from the predecessor to the newcomer doesn’t feel worthwhile, to me, for my purposes; not yet, anyway, and surely not for as long as footnotes and endnotes are missing. How one fixes “intuitiveness” is an elusive concept, especially at this stage of the product’s development. But one continues to hope that fixing footnotes and endnotes, by making them available, might not be too far down the road, now.
  7. " PagePlus still remains my go-to program for all sorts of functions..." I couldn't agree more.. https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/65541-footnotesendnotes/&do=findComment&comment=536959
  8. I regard this thread as a platform that was established for people to record their surprise and discontent with the omission from Affinity Publisher of footnote and endnote features, and to ask whether they would be included eventually. That degree of surprise and discontent, and that question, has already been registered many times by various contributors to the thread, and Serif / Affinity have responded by indicating that they are well aware of these sentiments, and that they will in due course be including the features in the product. With that in mind, to me it is nugatory to keep on making the same fundamental point — "the product doesn't have these features, and we wish it did" — over and over again, from however many different angles. I don't view the thread as a platform for parading my personality, or making personalised accusations about people "hiding behind other people's backs", or "suggesting some kind of censorship", or "dodging the question", or for creating the basis of "a coffee table book". For those who may wish so to use the thread, I will leave it to them to use their time in that way.
  9. I didn't infer any insinuation of "censorship" in garretm30's observations. I read them as merely a gently humorous reminder that the absence of the features in question, footnotes and endnotes, is already well known and well debated in this forum, so that continually making the same point in different ways becomes an arguably futile activity. We all want Affinity Publisher to have the widest possible collection of features (and many of us continue to wish, currently in vain, that it could at least match the full set of features that PagePlus provided). We know, because Serif / Affinity have already told us on more than one occasion, that footnotes and endnotes will come along eventually. My present estimation is that "eventually" means in version 2.x. Until then, when I need footnotes and endnotes, I will use a different product.
  10. Yes, what a shame it can't still be bought from Serif (as it could until October 2019) as a low-cost, unsupported legacy product, by those for whom -- despite its "legacy" nature -- it would provide the functionality they need.
  11. garrettm30, thank you for this, reminding everyone that Serif / Affinity are already very well aware of the need for these features, and are going to introduce them, when they are confident that they are ready. I had wanted to post the same point here yesterday, but couldn't find it — after having searched in vain for the phrase, as I mistakenly recalled it, "it will be worth the wait".
  12. Thanks, Callum. But (note to Serif/Affinity)..... why on earth isn't this under Edit > Preferences... > Tools, instead of View > Customise Tools ? Why not have them both in the same logical place ? Thanks for the generally fine product, though.
  13. Sudden feeling of déjà vu..... https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/65541-footnotesendnotes/&do=findComment&comment=536959
  14. 100% agreed — and reminiscent of over a year ago... https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/65541-footnotesendnotes/&do=findComment&comment=536959
  15. Pyanepsion, Well said. Of course, Affinity Publisher is still a relatively young product; no doubt the features many people want will be added over the years. But in a product that purports to be a professional publishing package, some of these features have been a long time coming.
  16. Hmm, reminds me of an older chapter.... https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/65541-footnotesendnotes/&do=findComment&comment=536959
  17. It is still good value at the price, and is available on a free trial basis for a while — why not give it a try for free and see whether it meets your needs. https://affinity.serif.com/en-gb/publisher/
  18. Hi Pyanepsion, Just as an aside -- noting, in passing, and with some embarrassment, as an Englishman, your comments on the French translations in Affinity Publisher: -- I'm sure you will already have reported this to Affinity, using an appropriate forum thread (and I acknowledge this is not the appropriate one), but if not it might be worth adding to the list: isn't that yet another mistake on the French Texte menu shown in your screenshot.... ...shouldn't "Interlignagede paragraphe" be "Interlignage de paragraphe" ? This is probably not at the top of your list, but the journey towards perfection is a long one.....
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