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  1. 2 hours ago, Wosven said:

    Did you search to do this PDF without APub because it seems we can't export pages in different order?
    (I tested to export 4,1,2-3 pages, but the PDF was pages 1,2,3,4 :S)

    Using another application or some other drivers to produce a PDF can be a problem if it doesn't manage all the needed setting.
    When testing with my current PDF driver (Foxit PDF's one), it was able to manage fonts (include them) and PPI (resolution needed for print, resampling, etc.), but nothing about colors profiles, spot colors, etc.
    And the resulting PDF had faded colors, certainly not what I would expect for print. And the file's size is a lot smaller than a PDF for print produce by APub, certainly missing the color profiles and other informations.
    (I don't have tool here to check for this, but I'd rather check those PDFs first before sending them for print).

     

    Another solution, if you know in which order the pages need to be, is to export a 1st and regular PDF (from 1 to n page) with the print setting from APub.

    Second, you create a new document with single pages of A3 format (ordouble size from your original pages).

    You put a guid to divide this page in 2 egal parts in the Master pages, to easily place your pages.

    And you place the PDF pages on this document as needed depending of the order you want.
    You can place the first 2 pages on the first large spread, and duplicate the spread.
    Next thing to do: select each frame containing a page and using the dropdown menu to select the PDF's page needed.

     

    First document that I export as PDF for print.

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    Second document where I place my PDF's pages in the order I need, before exporting for print again.

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    Yes, ordering the pages is an issue. My printer friend, who is not particularly computer literate, offered me a simple practical solution. He makes up a simple physical booklet of the right size, then numbers the page pairs. It is difficult to explain, so I am planning to make a video of how it is done and post it on the Fans  of Serif Software on Facebook. But I need the finished result to make it believable! My project is a 36 page booklet.


  2. Here is my summary of where this discussion has got to. Here is one workflow....

    Create the document (as an A4 facing page spread)

    Select the Microsoft “print to pdf” as suggested by fd101

    Set page size to A3

    Set mode to booklet

    When asked, specify file location

    This produces a file that will produce double sided printing of an A4 booklet on A3 paper.  

    In this case it is not necessary to hit the big print to file button, as suggested by Wosven (because the “print to pdf” printer will do that anyway). This is the method I am now using. However, the printer properties of the generic Microsoft "print to pdf" printer do not have options to manage thw workflow, the pdf printer used by Wosven may be more efficient.

    It seems to me that it is against the philosophy of Affinity to adopt an Adobe solution , as suggested by Thomaso, though that route looks feasible.(in my view pdf, although an Adobe creation is now an industry standard)

    In short, I think we should see the issue as a 2 stage problem.

    Stage 1, producing a file in a format suitable to pass to a Printer (or your own printer). PDF seems a practical option. [ My initial problem was that I did not see how to produce a pdf file when using the booklet output option. Pointing out that there is a pdf printer built into (most?) Windows 10 computers solves that problem. ]

    Stage 2 getting compatibility between the output from stage 1 and the printer.  That is, as several people have pointed out, a matter of printer settings. However, the issue can be eased by knowing whether to order the pages for printing the “outer” pages first, then the “inners”; or printing each page 2 sided one at a time. Some printers will do either given the basic output from any of the pdf-to-file-printers mentioned in this discussion. It sometimes needs a little bit of experiment to sort out which sequence works. [I am now content that I understand the issues]

    In summary, I would suggest to Affinity that they produce some clear video tutorials on how to carry out this workflow. They should also look at the wording on their print page. “Print to File” on the big button means something different to the little print to file tick box.

    I think the time has come to close this discussion. I have learned a lot, and can only thank the contributors

     


  3. 3 hours ago, thomaso said:

    @GrahamMYC, if the printing computer has Adobe Acrobat installed then you simply can export in AFPub as single-page PDF and use Acrobat's ability to print as booklet. ( https://helpx.adobe.com/acrobat/kb/print-booklets-acrobat-reader.html )

    It is the same result as printing as a booklet in AFPub, just one pdf step in between – but less to carry to the printer.

     

    I have had a look at the adobe reader version and it looks complicated. I have now got a workable system (I think!) so I may try that another time, but I have not clearly understood how the pages have to be ordered to produce a two sided booklet. However, many thanks for pointing this our


  4. 1: I have a fairly complex document, 36 pages, mixture of text and  images

    2: When I used the Microsoft "Print to PDF" (there is no pdf option when printing to booklet in the Windows version), I found there were quite a few errors. In particular one word, used often in the document, had been italicised in the original, but the italics did not survive when printed to the pdf file.

    3: The format printed was Layout, A3 Booklet (the original pages were A4). This produced the right page pairs in the right sequence,  assuming that each page would be printed 2 sided, sheet by sheet. However printers often like to do all the "outer" pages first, then flip the whole stack, and print the "inners". To achieve this  the pdf file was brought back into Publisher so the pages could be put into the right order.

    4: At this point I used the find function to locate all the instances of where the italicisation had been lost. This could be done fairly quickly, but Publisher was crashing frequently during this process. - possibly every 5 changes made. 

    (As an aside, I find Publisher frequently crashes if I zoom too fast using the mouse wheel)

    My computer is a Dell M3800 with Windows 10: Publisher 1.7.0.192


  5. Just for fun, I experimented with decorations on a Heading paragraph style. The result was unsatisfactory

    1: Paragraph style update was patchy in its effect, updating only some of the instances in the document

    2: The gradient feature did not seem to do anything. The controls were not transparent, and the effects were not understandable, if any. As a minimum a tutorial is needed

    3: One Heading would not even update itself, or went wrong. For example a left side bar went down the side of the whole text box

    Luckily, this is not a feature on which I am depending, so I just abandoned decoration.

    Generally, however (as a loyal and long time user of PagePlus, I am enjoying APub

     


  6. 3 hours ago, v_kyr said:

    There are a bunch of Windows PDF tools (freeware and commercial) which allow to reorder PDF documents in various ways here. - If you search on Google after that topic you will probably find a lot of them.

    Here are just two of them ...

    Many thanks. I am going to try working via the microsoft print to pdf. But those tolls may comeinhandy. 


  7. 3 hours ago, fde101 said:

    If you are on Windows 10, look for a printer named "Microsoft Print to PDF" to be included in the list of printers you can select from.

    If you don't have that, here is a Micro$oft page on how to add it:

    https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-hardware/how-to-add-or-reinstall-the-microsoft-pdf-printer/70377c34-e50a-42be-b9f3-92345d6e25df

     

    If you are on older versions of Windows you will need a third-party solution to add a PDF printer; there are a few around if you search for them.

    Hey thanks.I did not know such a thing existed. I have tried it and got the Argentine answer (i.e. 98% right, with a critical 2% missing). At present it is producing the right page pairs (I think), but my printer friend would prefer to have all the outers, then all the inners, if you know what I mean . I need to apply a couple of coats of thinking about it, but it is certainly far, far easier than trying to manually build the file. It avoids nearly all of the issues I have reported above.

    So thankyou again!!!!!


  8. 1 hour ago, Sabine 108 said:

    I'm happy to have found the instructions for printing a liltte booklet for myself in this thread.
    Graham, where the heck is your 'save as PDF'-button? You don't need to select a printer, for me 'no printer selected' works fine.

    I wish I knew! Are you using a Mac? I am on Windows. 


  9. Fixx

    Thanks for the thought. .The owner of the printer has been producing print for local customers for some years but assembles his booklets manually(!!) I suspect he will be unwilling to play with the printer settings. In any case Publisher should be able to produce a pdf file  compiled for a booklet - and it seems it is possible on a mac, but not on Windows (unless someonecan show me how). Lets see if Serif respond


  10. So far so good -well almost!

    I am trying to produce a booklet based on a document of A4 pages, with a 2 page spread, starting on the right. Clearly this needs to print on A3

    I have a friend who has an A3 printer. So the easy option is to get a driver for his printer. and install it on my computer It is an OKI C9000 . But if I try to download the driver for this printer it will cost $10 with no guarantee it will work. This would mean connecting my computer to his printer.

    The second option would be  for him to load Affinity Publisher onto his computer, which he is not too keen to do. (I am working on it!)

    A third option, which we tried, would be to construct a booklet file by copying page by page  from my document ( 2 page spread, start on right) to a new document that would produce the booklet result (two page spread, start on left and work out manually which pages go where!). It does not work. Let me explain. If you have text that flows from one page to another, then when you copy a page including such text (especially when it is not the first page), it copies the whole story, not just the text visible on the page. What we need is something equivalent to the image "copy flattened" - i.e. when you copy from a page in Publisher it would copy the text that appears on the page, not the whole story. There could be a workaround which involves isolating the text on each page manually, and breaking the flow links. That, however, would be slow, tedious and error prone. That is unless any of you bright guys can offer an alternative

    If this explanation is not clear enough, I will try to produce a video demonstrating the problem. Plse let me know.

    In the meantime I offer 2 screen grabs

    1: The basic APub document page, showing the right hand page selected1125273080_copy1.thumb.jpg.dd37b05d5a14c901be90e5b966ecca3c.jpg

    2: What happens when you copy that page and try to paste the result on a right hand page. Note that the whole story has been selected and flows on

    copy 2.jpg


  11. I am producing a book on 2-sided A4 pages. In the past I have printed these and used a comb binder. I have been offered an opportunity to print on A3 sheets and stitch. It is an attractive option. Is there any software in Publisher that will arrange the pages for printing in this way?  Likely to take a week or so.


  12. It had never occurred to me to select from the pages column. I will give that a try. 

    Well, thanks to you guys, I have learned quite a bit; and I think I may have surfaced a few issues that deserve thinking about.

    Inanother post I have learned that Serif are considering issues relating to the promotion of objects from the master to the live page. It therefore looks like this is a work on progress, and we will have to wait for those bright lads in Nottingham to think it through.

    So, unless anyone has anything major to say, I suggest we pause this discussion.


  13. Interesting question! At the bottom of the layer stack there was a group called basic that I do not remember creasing. It contains objects like page numbers and also a couple of picture frames all originally created on the master. If I include this in the Group, the guides disappear. They do not disappear of I include everything else in the Group. I am slowly lurching (with my 77 yr old brain) toward an understanding, but I would say that this situation is far from transparent. It needs a couple of coats of looking at!

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