Travelling Man

Extension has now shown up. It does not appear to load up the pic (raw in my case) in AP 5 beta cleanly, it is very dark, but clicking on the develop persona rectifies this. Procedure seems to be that file is edited in AP following which one just closes AP and it returns the file to Apple Photos as a JPG. It returns the file to the correct location and does not over-write the original so all in all it works well. But is there a way to get something other than a JPG back to Apple Photos? I like the idea of Apple Photos keeping the original safe but would prefer having a tiff returned rather than a JPG. This all represents tremendous progress and brings Apple Photos close to being a companion DAM to AP. Well done gang!

MEB I have the 1.5 Beta but no such extension appears in Apple Photo?

Could you explain that process, Michael, please? Thanks Colin

My best guess is that there will never be a Linux version. I am an ex Linux user and whilst I liked it I found the development cycle frustrating and I have forgotten how many times I heard - "this will be the year of the Linux desktop". A missed opportunity or a model that does not fit the commercial world (desktop wise)? Probably both imo. But if I were a commercial enterprise I would think twice about investing time in an OS that has so many flavours most (if not all) of which could be here today and gone tomorrow.

Love the tone mapping persona, that should do away with some plugins.

Understood.

Agreed. It is open to huge abuse.

It is a shame MEB that there is no target for this. This and DAM functionality are the main reasons I cannot yet part company with Adobe.

We will not agree on this. If institutions will not finance something then they see it as risky. If that fails the company can try issuing shares or loan paper thus allowing people to buy into the venture properly. If that fails then it is a bit like the referendum - the market has spoken.

I fundamentally disagree with crowdfunding for anything other than charitable objectives. If business opportunities want money for development and their product is good they should raise capital the way any other self respecting business does. If they cannot get funds that way then tough - it is their problem and nobody elses.

No way would I countenance supporting a business in this way. As said earlier, this is no small start-up enterprise, this is a large company that must stand on its own two feet. Serif is a commercial operation not a charity. Anyway how do you reconcile donating via crowdfunding and then having to purchase the product at release. What next for heavens sake, crowdfunding for Adobe or for Apple - don't think so!

The next beta (where is it by the way?) is I understand tweaked to work better with DAMs. Maybe that will sort the LR problem.

They are thinking that Adobe has that one covered nicely so why try and compete. There are plenty of iPhone photographers around and it works well for them, which is Apples target market, or part thereof.

Apple Photos handles raw ok internally. You can edit them and it all plays nicely. It falls to pieces when you try and edit in an external application, be that a Photos extension or not. I do not see that changing in Sierra, but we can hope. Photos will never be another Aperture is my guess - it is there for the iPhone photography clan really and it does that well.

Don't do it - you cannot retain edited raw files. You have to re-import a jpeg after editing. Photos is no substitute for LR and as far as I can see never will be.

Yup, I second that.

Thanks MEB. It is such a shame that the playing field is not level. I do like AP.

Presumably your 1.4.2 beta is dead as it has now attained release?

So, there will always be a compromise in using AP so far as plugins are concerned?

How long is this plug-in support likely to be? Whilst I like AP I do use plugins and need them to work before I consider jumping from Adobe which seems to work with them all.

Many hanks :-)

That is a good point. Is it logical that the file creation date should change? Not in my view as no matter how many times it is edited the physical creation date must remain the same surely!

If I open a nef file held in Apple Photos via the Media Browser it opens in AP's Photo Persona as a jpg. Why is this? Thanks Colin

But surely the thing is that with something like LR you do not need Affinity most of the time? I subscribe to CC but as LR gets better I need PS less (although it does have its uses for the heavy lifting work). IMHO it will be a long time before Affinity catches up with LR, which is why I find my AP purchase getting less and less usage. LR's raw conversion capabilities are far in advance of anything Affinity have at the moment. That is not a snipe - it is a fact. And it is a shame for AP has bags of potential.

That is so unlikely. If we all worried about that then there would be no point is using any software that did not use a open file format. Also the Adobe subscription model includes Photoshop so it is not bad value really. It is just a matter of personal taste as to whether you go for subscription or not. My view is that more and more software houses will move to a subscription model or a variant thereof. On1 is a case in point. LR works well enough with Raw, DNG, JPG and Tiff. In fact I believe some prefer Tiff to DNG (which I believe is open format). And as Madame says, you can buy a stand alone copy of LR. PSD is a Photoshop format.