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Petar Petrenko

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  1. 6 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

    And as that copy was distributed as part of Affinity Publisher, your redistribution of it (if you did that) would (I think) violate your license for the Affinity application as it does not include redistribution rights.

    I don't need to redistribute them at all. Why should I? Every one who has Affinity apps have this files. I just show the path where are they located.

  2. 5 hours ago, thomaso said:

    Note in this sample are no paragraph or line breaks, the leading override applied to the coloured text causes different leading for their lines, independent of the text flow.

    In these 2 examples you didn't use text styles because you can't do it with them. You just, simply, can't set inside text style which line(s) you want to apply the leading override (LO) to. Personally I don't use LO (and do not recomend it, at all) because it changes the rhytm of the text, the "color" of the page (darker or lighter) as authors like James Felici, Nigel French, James Craig, Robert Bringhurst... advice.

    I always use fixed leading (not Auto) because I don't like inline graphic(s) to change the leading on the line(s) they appear. In this case I would resize the graphic (make it smaller) or change the leading value in the text style to be applyed globally.

    In cases of drop caps and small caps on the first line of the paragraph, which is usually used in the opening paragraphs (just after the subtitles) I would use bigger leading.

    Of course you can use LO freely where you want, this is just my opinion.

  3. 31 minutes ago, sfriedberg said:

    1. I think the simplest response is "One would not do that. That either calls for multiple character styles, or un-styled local overrides.

    2. Multiple styles would be appropriate if the same typographic effect is required in more than one place."

    1. Taht's exactly want I want to say. If you need to apply different leading override to a multiple places creating styles is not appropriate.

    2. I agree with this.

    35 minutes ago, sfriedberg said:

    The main (and infrequent) use I have for leading override is making space for graphics pinned inline to text.

    I put graphic on separate line because I usually use align to baseline grid for the body text.

    39 minutes ago, sfriedberg said:

    Because I do a lot of mathematical typesetting, I use character styles with baseline and font size adjustments quite heavily.  These don't involve leading override, as even super-superscript and sub-subscript styles are tweaked to fit within the body text paragraph style's normal leading.  However, it is all too common that I have a sequence of 3-8 characters where every character has a different character style assigned than the ones to either side.

    Math equations atract more attention if they are on separate lines like other graphic elements even they are short and the same size as the body text.

  4. 7 minutes ago, Old Bruce said:

    Are you wanting the "different leading override values" to apply to the 4-5 characters or do you want the "different leading override values" to apply to each of the four or five characters? Meaning apply to a stretch of 4-5 characters or one override to one character, another override to a second character, a third value to a third character and on and on.

    To a any number of chars (4-5 or more) with different leading override with one character style.

  5. 50 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

    I think you're ignoring some aspects of Text Styles. You're right that Leading Override does not make sense in a Paragraph Text Style that is used as a Paragraph Text Style.

    However:

    1. There are also Character Text Styles. And for a Character Text Style, Leading Override does make sense.
    2. There are also text styles that can show in both the Paragraph Text Style list and the Character Text Style list. And in that case, it can be applied either to a complete paragraph or to a set of characters within the paragraph. When you apply it as a Paragraph Text Style it applies to the complete paragraph, and the Leading is used. However, if you select part of the paragraph, and apply it as a Character Text Style, the Leading Override is used.

    Would you be so kind and give me an example, but bear in mind to apply the character style to at least 4-5 characters, but with different leading override values?

  6. It would be nice if you add an invisible marker for the leading override just to know where it is in case we want to change it. Right now, it is very hard to locate the position of the marker and it can't be adjusted if we try at other location.

    Also, IMO, leading override must be located only in Character panel and removed from Text styles because its real usage is for local adjustments which is not possible with styles. Leading and Leading Override have the same functionality inside text styles.

  7. 13 hours ago, Old Bruce said:

    I am guessing that when you "place text" you mean you are using the menu File > Place... and that you are choosing a Text File to place. The best way to work is to draw a text frame to hold the text first and then place the text in that.

    Yes, I'm aware of that, but I want to use already implemented feature in Publisher -- click anywhere on the page and a text frame appers. The problem is the size of the frame is the same from the original document (I think) and it is not resized to the column or page margins.

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