yesreallylinux

One thing is for sure: Endless debates on the merits of Linux never convince anyone. We all just become further entrenched in the position we already believe is correct. There is only one thing that will convince Serif/Canva to put resources behind Linux, regardless of how good or bad it is as a platform, and that is numbers. Serif isn't interested in fulfilling a niche within a niche and they've expressed as much over and over again throughout the years. The Web does have that requisite number of users, and it's Canva's primary platform. If anything is viable, it's the Web. It caters to Linux users on Chromebooks, GNU/Linux, Windows, and macOS. It's a single platform. But Serif/Canva haven't expressed any interest in doing that, either. If there isn't any interest in doing Affinity on the web, I don't see how desktop Linux has a prayer. Happy to be proven wrong in the future, of course. Unsubscribing from this thread now...

He's suggesting Serif/Canva publish the Windows and macOS versions on Steam.

For DXVK, there's a guide on what not to use, though it's targeted at games: https://github.com/doitsujin/dxvk/wiki/Developer-guidelines For Affinity to meet us halfway, I think it would require an investment in CodeWeavers' services (e.g. PortJump). Get them working on supporting the features Wine currently doesn't support while continuing development of the Windows and macOS versions undisturbed.

The point is moot, anyway, since Adobe stopped releasing it for Linux. The acrobat webapp has essentially everything you'd expect to find in the desktop application, so that's a good option. Ubuntu is fine.

Adobe Acrobat Reader was the first app Adobe ported to Linux over a decade ago, followed by Flash, I think. They didn't keep it up, for whatever reason. Nowadays, Adobe Acrobat is probably the most fully-featured of the webapps Adobe makes available for all OSes, like Linux and ChromeOS. You can sign PDFs digitally, edit text, re-order pages; basically anything you'd want to do with a PDF in Adobe Acrobat DC on the webapp. There's also the Lightroom, Photoshop, and Illustrator webapps, which have varying degrees of functionality available. I can only see them continuing to bring more of their apps and more functionality to the web. For my purposes (mainly simple collaboration with other's files), it works well enough, minus After Effects and inDesign. If you rely on Affinity and not just Adobe, though, then making the jump to Linux is more challenging.

Well, it's probably still less than all the greenhouse gases all the Windows AI stuff is emitting...

Certainly not, but it's the source of one of only two semi-reliable market share statistics I could find.

I've gotten it three times. Random is good. It means you get a decent variance in sample size, which errs toward the more accurate.

I don't think you're wrong, but I also think this particular problem is small potatoes: just give users commands that will work anywhere. I don't see what's wrong with giving users commands. It's just a fact that Linux versions are never the most-used versions and Linux users are willing to jump through more hoops and adapt to their software than the other way around. We use Linux. We're used to kludge.

Wherever Serif wants to put it inside these folders (probably a "preferences" folder): ~/.var/com.serif.affinity.Photo ~/.var/com.serif.affinity.Designer ~/.var/com.serif.affinity.Publisher Wherever Serif wants to put it inside these folders (probably a "downloaded_content" folder): ~/.var/com.serif.affinity.Photo ~/.var/com.serif.affinity.Designer ~/.var/com.serif.affinity.Publisher To get there: cd ~/.var/com.serif.affinity.Photo I guess the simplest way would be to just remove it and re-install it: rm -r downloaded_content/ You could direct a user there using their graphical file manager, too. You could just say: "Navigate to the .var/com.serif.affinity.Photo folder inside your home directory and delete the downloaded_content folder. Re-download your downloaded files." flatpak uninstall --delete-data ~/.var/com.serif.affinity.Photo flatpak install com.serif.affinity.Photo Flatpak encapsulates all data inside of the ~/.var/APP_NAME folder. I don't think syntax between shells is so different that it changes how you invoke and use the options for a program on the command line. None of the commands you'd expect to tell people to use would be lines and lines of bash-isms.

Could you expand on that? Support personnel for Affinity? And what is an example of something users would expect support to help them with that doesn't involve Affinity? Flatpak already ensures that the Affinity applications themselves are the same for everyone who uses them, but obviously that does nothing for the desktop. In the worst case, you can do what Jetbrains does and only support GNOME or KDE.

Don't forget ChromeOS, which is Linux too; it's not a separate platform. 3.77% + 2.55% = 6.32%. If you assume all of the "Unknown" is Linux-based, then you get 11.18%. But it's unrealistic to assume all of the "Unknown" statistic is Linux. A good portion of that is just Windows and macOS users not being detected correctly (see back in May 2023 for example). That's worldwide, of course; you get a different story if you check just the US for example. 6.32% is a significant market share, though. I don't think Windows needs to fail for desktop Linux to succeed. If we want to get into more domain-specific data, the Steam hardware survey has Linux at 2.32% for last month while macOS is at 1.47% and Windows claims the rest. And obviously the StackOverflow survey has Linux, macOS, and Windows share divvied up pretty evenly. If you want some more "feelings-based" data, just have a look at how many users are coming into this thread putting their hand up for Linux support.

Here's a recent mockup for what GIMP could look like: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gimp/-/issues/11025

If Serif/Canva are interested in getting their software working on Linux, Codeweavers are the ones to talk to: https://www.codeweavers.com/portjump The official version of Wine doesn't support a few features Affinity needs yet. But ElementalWarrior has done the work of patching Wine to work with Affinity. Have a look at this thread for how to set it up: I haven't tried it personally but lots of users have had good luck with the method. Wanesty has the guide here too, which is a better way of following it in my opinion: https://codeberg.org/wanesty/affinity-wine-docs

It'd certainly be nice to see Affinity on the web like Adobe.