Hi, Thanks for all replies. Yes this is exactly what I am trying to do. The problem seems to be that putting 30 degrees in "R" in transform moves it TO a random place on the dial (see screenshot) not BY 30 degrees (12 o'clock being 180 degrees according to Affinity). (later) I have now recreated the circle in another file and 12 o'clock is now 0 degrees (?!) With you up until the first copy is created at 30 degrees, how are you then creating all the others in 30 degree increments?. By the way, I find that shift and rotate moves the triangle in 15 degree increments (why 15 degrees?, is this a parameter I can change?), might be very useful. Just to add, could this have been caused by my flipping vertically by accident? - in that case, my bad!