Armelline
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I'm debating if it's worth me upgrading to V2 of Photo with the current sale. I only really know of one feature that was added that I want, so I thought I'd give V2 a trial and see how I like it. I can't for the life of me find a single place I can download a V2 trial. Is a trial for V2 available?
Edit: I found a trial link for the Universal License from the FAQ, and a separate Photo link is available there. This can be deleted.
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I *could* have if I'd known about it before reading your message just now. Seems I entirely missed the sale. Bizarre that I didn't even get an email about it from Serif. Guess I'm waiting until Black Friday.
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Apparently it's in 2.1 but I can't speak to the implementation as it wasn't there in 2.0 so I did not buy 2.0 and there's no upgrade pricing. Affinity Photo is great value, don't get me wrong, but I'm not really keen to pay £70 for one feature.
Edit: Apparently I said this 3 months ago and forgot.
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That's amazing news. Just a shame it didn't come during the 50% window. I know I'm going to sound super ungrateful now, but I can't justify £70 just to get this one feature. Would have (and still would) bought the £35 "upgrade" without hesitation, though!
Really glad to see this coming, though!
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I have not bothered to upgrade to v2 because of this missing feature and this thread. The resistence to the feature by Affinity, the snark and condescension from some of the "pillars" of this community, both make me deeply wary of investing more money in this software. Such a small, simple thing to add. (And I'm sorry I simply won't believe it's hard to add - it just needs to read the topmost, leftmost, bottommost, and rightmost positions of the selection and then move the existing crop boundaries to those positions. If even that is too much work then the code must be absolute spaghetti. And there are many other ways it could be achieved more elegantly, I'm sure.)
They are losing money over this feature. Clearly not enough for them to care, though.
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Some of the comments on this forum truly baffle me. The constant and often insulting resistence to perfectly reasonable feature requests is just... weird. Nobody is demanding Serif match all of Photoshop's features or prices. We just want a very, very easily implemented feature prevelant in pretty much *every other* photo editing software. It truly baffles me how there's *any* resistance to adding this feature.
And let's not pretend that Serif don't position Affinity Suite as a direct alternative to Adobe. It's clear that's who they're directly taking aim at with their repeated "No subscription" proclamations.
4 hours ago, Ron P. said:Hey give this a try and see just how far you get;
I would really like to drive a Bently, but can only afford my GMC pickup. Do you think it would be proper to demand GMC produce a product with all the luxuries, precision of a Bently, but at the price point of their GMC? The flip side of that coin, try demanding Adobe drop their prices to match Serif's. Then you can have your Adobe, not be mad at them, or Serif, AND you won't have to tax your brain to learn something new and different.
This comparison is utterly absurd. We're not demanding that GMC produce a product with all the luxuries and precision of a Bently. Though that's a pretty insulting towards Affinity comparison to make in the first place. We're asking, to keep with your anaology, something more akin to that they add the ability for the windows to roll all the way up or down without having to press the button the entire time. Something that nearly all modern cars offer, other than this one.
I won't even get into how condescending your last sentence is.
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Just now, MikeTO said:
No, it's just a result of having to make choices. Companies that try to do everything in a program's first version are more likely to fail, even if it means having to rework some code at a later date.
Can't agree with this assessment. Even if they had to make compromises at the start, completely eliminating the possiblity of later adding a pretty major feature option speaks to lack of foresight in my opinion. I'd not be surprised if the text engine issue isn't really the issue, but rather the further implications such as LondonSquirrel pointed out.
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1 minute ago, MikeTO said:
Serif will want to do it in a thoughtful way like they just did with footnotes, sidetones, and endnotes. I'm sure Serif knows how important this feature is to a lot of potential customers.
Hope you're right. They've certainly had years to think about it.
1 minute ago, MikeTO said:I said it's a lot of work to add RTL to an existing program because text direction affects everything in a program's text engine so all of the code would need to be reviewed and updated.
That speaks to a shocking lack of foresight when programming their text engine.
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Just now, LondonSquirrel said:
This has been discussed before. Reversing a string is trivial. But a lot more is needed than that to make a DTP application. RTL with cursive text is tricky.
I frequently see badly produced RTL text. Take a look at this sample text. The kashidas are horrible and inconsistent, the spacing between numbers and words is broken, the spacing in general is ugly. It does not look very professional to me. It looks to me like the justification engine in this app is the programming equivalent of "shove it in there, make it fit". The output is from Adobe. Could do better? I think so, very much better.
What you discuss there is poor non-latin font support. That's a different, though admittedly connected issue. But all it does is point out another glaring weakness in this suite.
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People keep talking about 8 years and 7 years and ignoring that the number of years is pretty much irrelevant. What matters is the number and quality of updates in that time. Which, since I've bought anything from Affinity, at least, has been few and minor. Maybe the pace and substance of updates was better in the early years?
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5 minutes ago, MoonaticDestiny said:
I really dont know whats going on behind the scenes but Im tired and I cant anymore. Im leaving.
As someone eagerly awaiting crop to selection I too have lost faith. Affinity seem to pick new features by putting a small bucket at the bottom of the grand canyon then lobbing rocks randomly off random ledges. If the rock lands in the bucket the feature gets added. It's clearly a small bucket.
Edit: From the link above.
QuoteWe have our own code to compose and render text, and this does not support r2l languages. Adding that support will be a huge job.
What on earth did they do when they wrote their code to compose and render text? At literally no point in that process do they have a string that they can just... reverse? Mind-boggling.
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Makes me wonder why. Reversing text is not a challenging thing to do when programming, and the alignment of the text is already an option. Is there some huge consideration that makes this a difficult feature to add? The Affinity apps don't feel like they have spaghetti codebases, so this should surely be relatively trivial in the grand scheme of things? Something like 2bn people around the world use RTL written languages, so it would seem a market segment worth supporting.
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Would love to see Crop to Selection (i.e. whatever is surrounded by the marquee tool) added in a future update. Was very disappointed to hear it did not make it into the V2 release. I'm speaking primarily about Photo as that's the one I need it for, but I assume others would get benefit in the other apps too.
Please note this is an entirely separate discussion to the one regarding V1. There's an entirely separate forum for V2 so I'm assuming feedback related to V1 isn't applicable to V2 and thus this thread is needed.
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1 hour ago, David Gill said:
When you compare Serif to other software companies, most release new versions on a yearly basis with a few tweaked upgrades to try and bait customers to pay an upgrade price. I see this with Corel for example, every year they do this, with all their software. Whereas Serif has given free upgrades for 8 years, and now, with some significant upgrades they've not only offered a 40% discount to everyone, but they offer the Suite of 3 apps at even lower price than if you bought each one individually. On top of that, you can use each of the 3 apps on 3 different devices for one bulk price. Personally I see Serif as company worthy of paying the price, I want them to keep feeding the art community tools to work at a reasonable price. On top of that, they've shown themselves to be very generous over the past few years selling their software at 50% price points during covid - which is what got me hooked on their software. I'd be considered a newer customer, I think I've only used it for a year and a half and I don't mind paying the price for the latest version of Affinity. Keep in mind too, there aren't just key new features that have been added, they made some vast improvements to current features, such as fantastic upgrades to the layers panel. I'm sure there's much more to explore!
I suspect the view people hold will depend on how long they've had their licenses. If you've had it a year, you're much more likely to be looking for upgrade pricing. If you've had it for 8 years, you're probably not at all fussed. I personally don't see any reason to upgrade my Photo license given the lack of new features that will matter to me and the way Affinity completely ignore long-standing and relatively simple feature requests, to the extent it feels almost like disdain, especially when I've only had my license about a year (maybe more, but feels like about a year).
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2 minutes ago, Dangerous said:
This you may class as a workround but in A-Designer draw a shape with the pen tool rather than select, convert the object to an artboard and clip your image to the artboard. Edit in A-Photo, erase white paper then export as png to retain transparency outside of the artboard
Plenty of workarounds, but nothing as simple as just selecting an area and that being what the crop is. For me personally this is absolutely vital in Photo and I've wasted so much time faffing with workarounds. It's not quite enough to have me install the seven hundred and forty-five apps Adobe needle into every crevice of my system, but it's close. (Your Photo workaround doesn't achieve my desired end result.)
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Just now, pixelstuff said:
Well it doesn't seem to be listed in their list of new features, but I haven't installed the demo yet to be sure.
I'd be very surprised if it was, so I'll not give up hope just yet!
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Anyone able to confirm if this was added to V2? Literally the difference between buying the upgrade and not for me.
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On 4/30/2022 at 12:15 PM, NotMyFault said:
Does Publisher offer a solution, e.g. could publisher create 800x600 pages from layers inside a afphoto document, or using the individually sized png exports? The image frame should do the trick, i would assume,
No idea - I don't have Publisher.
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On 9/27/2019 at 11:57 AM, Ben said:
We just need to have a look at the command and see if it can't be applied to multiple layers in one go.
Was this ever looked it? It's been over two and a half years and I'm still having to rasterize each layer one at a time.
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Absolutely. This and crop to selection are the only improvements I've really found myself needing, so I will absolutely not pay for any upgrade that doesn't include them.
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Adding this to Crop To Selection as features I scratch my head as to why are so difficult in Affinity Photo. I have a few hundred layers of differently sized items that i need to export all to images with the canvas' dimension. Super easy in Photoshop. As far as I can tell, impossible to automate in Affinity Photo.
Has any easy way been found since the last post in this thread?
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Would also love to see this option. So far I've not once needed it to be top left and it's annoying changing it every time.
is Crop to selection possible
in Pre-V2 Archive of Affinity on Desktop Questions (macOS and Windows)
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They have. I've been waiting for the sale and am testing V2 now. Crop to selection is in and can be used in the way I wanted. Still not sure if it's worth £40 to upgrade just for that, but will see how I get on with V2 today and tomorrow.