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10 minutes ago, garrettm30 said:
That's the way I feel when dealing with an imported file. Back when I was importing Quark files into InDesign, I don't think I ever picked up where the import left off. I always grabbed the text, cleared the formatting, and started fresh in a new document.
yes, it will never be perfect especially when going between applications from different companies. I never bothered with the Markz software, found it easier having a sample and being able to see what it looks like and recreate in Indesign.
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39 minutes ago, Nath74k said:
You might not see the logic in it, and how it could be of any use for you, and that's okay.
But it could also help plenty of people out there.The company I work for, we all work on inDesign but all on different versions (some even run on CS6 to avoid paying monthly), so we use IDML files anyway. Once we finished our part, we send the idml file to the person who will take care of comping everything, adding the final touches, and making the final project print ready.
In such instances, there WILL be changes made by the person taking care of the final steps. So knowing that, there would be no issue for us to have IDML files exported from Affinity Publisher. Some of us are even waiting for an idml export feature to switch to Affinity.It's not because the export would not be perfect that it means it cannot be useful.
Each to their own, if it works for you great though seems like a nightmare to me. If I was in that situation and I was the end guy to prep it all for press or whatever the final version would be I would not want any formatting, give me the text and images and let me put it together from scratch rather then muck around with poorly exported/imported files from another version of Indesign or from a completely different application. Sometimes you spend more time trying to fix something rather then just set it up correctly the first time.
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6 minutes ago, MJR said:
Thanks @wonderings, I'm in Alberta. Will phone printing company today to see if they are open. This printing company does a fair amount for self-publishers.
In Publisher, is there a way I could convert my facing pages into single pages?
I would have thought so, I cannot find it. In Indesign is it just a check, export as spreads or single pages. If the option is in Publisher I could not see it. Took me a while to even find adding crop marks. When you go to export>PDF there is a "more" button at the bottom of the dialogue box. Click this and in there are many options, most of which you do not need to touch. Near that bottom of that new dialogue box is an option to include printer marks. Select that. Personally I would only want crop marks. Now unless the wording is weird I see nothing for making single page PDF automatically. You might have to go into document setup and uncheck facing pages and then export as PDF like that.
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I am in Ontario, print shops are all open here as they are defined as essential services. If you are in Quebec you will not be so lucky.
If you were sending it to me I would want the PDF in single pages, but you can export as single pages with crops and bleeds from Publisher from a document set with Facing Pages. I can't imagine any print shop would want you to actually impose for them, if they did I would be question the quality and knowledge they have in the industry.
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8 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:
One hint, if you have to relink, and all the linked files are in the same directory: When you open the document, and you get the prompt, do not respond Resource Manager; respond Yes. Then locate the first file. All the rest will be found automatically.
Next, a question: You say the file server is shut down at night. Are you also shutting down Publisher on your workstation? If not, you might try that.
I was curious if Publisher would do this. In Indesign you have a box you can check to search for remaining links in the same folder. Would be smart if it works like this. I have no projects to try this out on myself.
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You have to buy them individually and the license is not cross platform if buying from the Mac App store or Windows OS. Not sure about buying it directly from Affinity. Not sure what the limit is on the Mac, but you can have on multiple computers with the same Apple ID. This is not supposed to cover a workplace but a single user. Not sure how many machines you have, but all your Macs should be covered with your Apple ID.
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No solution, but have you first tried restarting your computer? Then check the fonts in Font Book make sure they are activated and from there try and open in Designer?
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I think you are talking about manually imposing. Are you printing this yourself or sending it to a print shop? If you are sending to a print shop do not worry about imposing it and setting it up for print. Set it up facing pages as you want it to be when finished, the print shop prepress will do the rest. They will have imposing software that does this in a second.
If you are going to be printing this yourself, what are you printing with? Most digital presses with a Fiery front end using Command Workstation will have the basic saddle stitch imposition built into them.
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4 hours ago, firstdefence said:
To create a centre stapled book and to understand what goes where, physically make one out of A4 sheets, so fold an A4 sheet over to make two A5 sheets you do that by folding it such that the two shortest sides meet, write front, back and then number the pages, add gutters near the staples and any margin you want top, bottom outside edge, then deconstruct it and see how it is laid out on the flat A4 sheets of paper. This will show you the pattern that is required, then you can recreate those patterns in publisher. Real world examples are always a good teacher.
Great advice and something done by many people in print when trying to figure something new out. Years ago we used to manually impose and this is what we would do for magazine signatures, make a physical dummy which would show how it needs to be on press.
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On 7/3/2019 at 1:20 PM, lghthd7 said:
Perfect!
haakoo, thank you! I will give it a try.
Be vary, vary, careful about dropping PDF’s in Publisher. Countless threads about the issue and problems that come from the way Publisher handles PDF’s. The only way I would use Publisher for this is if the PDF’s were made from Publisher files on your computer. If not you are asking for headaches.
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On 3/27/2020 at 6:39 PM, PaoloT said:
Not everybody works alone, and just sends the finished PDF to the printer. There are many who collaborate with other authors, designers, translators, proofreaders. Many of them will still work in InDesign. Being able to exchange files with them would be necessary.
For what I can see, IDML import is already very good. I expect well-formatted documents to be imported and exported without any issue.
Paolo
Then it would be best to be working with the same application. I do not expect documents made in InDesign or Publisher to be imported and exported into a different application by a different software company without issue. If collaboration is needed, the simplest and best way is to be using the same app.
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1 minute ago, Lagarto said:
My point was in comparing page layout apps that can open and edt (multipage) PDF content and make it native = recreate it as a publication, that is, apps like Affinity Publisher, Xara Designer Pro and QuarkXPress. There are probably other but which I do not know, but of these three, Affinity Publisher is most versatile and capable (in this sole task) even if it renders some jobs erroneously. .
QuarkXPress of course can handle pass through without any problems and is probably the only true alternative to InDesign in professional use (where jobs typically vary greatly and can be anything up to complex books containing thousands of pages).
Had no idea Quark had PDF editing capabilities. I am ok with the feature as long as a pass through option is given.
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35 minutes ago, Lagarto said:
It is all relative. Affinity Publisher can open a 100 page PDF with flowing text, complex notations with practically zero artifacts while apps like QuarkXPress show thousands of artifacts and "useless" bounding boxes. But for complex single page artworks there is nothing that can beat Illustrator. If I need to save a big project from a PDF, the source of which I no longer have (e.g. InDesign document), there is probably no better tool available than Affinity Publisher to do that and remake it a publication.
Do people still use Quark? 😉 Quark has never been good for display, when I switched our shop over to Indesign years ago it was like moving from the stone age to the Jetsons. You can actually see what you are working on, full resolution and it works at the same speed as Quark! Visually Affinity is the same way, looks great, just not trustworthy with placed PDF's in it.
I know Quark is still out there and updating, I have a a demo installed but never get around to trying anything in it so cannot compare Publisher to Quark. Quark does have years and years and years of refinement and development behind it, it was the app of choice by all print shops till Adobe took them on. I would not discount Quark, I am sure it is still very robust and hopefully looks prettier.
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10 hours ago, Deshy said:
The "skeptical look" was a joke and it was not even meant for you. If you are unable to comment without getting triggered maybe you should stop commenting? First you incorrectly assumed that I am not willing to throw a few bucks to buy the software. I am willing to buy even InDesign if the software fits my needs. Now, you are getting triggered because I made a comment to someone else. Newsflash for you, I don't care about your opinion either.
You think I am triggered over a support forum? I will insert an emoticon for you 😂 I am simply responding to your posts, are they not being received how you would like them to be?
Personally I would recommend Indesign over Publisher at the moment. Too many little issues with Publisher if you are doing pro work. The big one is not being able to place a PDF file in Publisher without it wanting to make it editable. This can cause so many issues and create a lot of problems. For me that is the biggest one right now. Would be nice to have data merge and a few other things but those would all be putting the cart before the horse in my opinion.
Indesign has years and years of refinement, it just works, albeit with a silly subscription service that I hate which makes the relationship with adobe love/hate. It is the best, just leaves you stuck with their stupid rental plan.
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5 hours ago, Catshill said:
It is not just you Ralph. Lots of us are having to work round the fonts issue. We each have our favourite way of dealing with it and these forums are a great way to share these.
This should not be a font issue, he wants to place a PDF in publisher, that should be the end of the line. These are issues that should not be there if you could simply place a PDF, not embed, not editable, just placed.
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2 hours ago, VirginiaL said:
Thank you both!
Since I work a lot with pdfs, if I can give a feedback, this is a serious issue that Affinity team should face. At least the possibility, with a checking box, to decide if it has only to "read" or read and modify pdfs as you say.
It is a lot of hours of work more indeed in this way.
Thank you
I agree and people have been saying this since beta and asking for the ability to place the PDF without editing.
I would disagree with Lagarto, Affinity does not do a good job interpreting PDF's, it only does a "good" job if all the pieces are there and correct. If you place Virginias PDF in Illustrator you can edit and it and it shows exactly how you see in the PDF, only does it show what Publisher shows when you start ripping it apart and clearing clipping masks. Beating a dead horse here but Publisher needs the ability to not embedded and not make the PDF edible. If they really want to get into PDF editing I would suggest they make an Acrobat DC competitor.
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I think this is again the fault of Publisher and how it handles PDF. The sample file provided looks perfect in Indesign but as VirginiaL said in Publisher lots of extras that should not be there. Publisher wants to make PDF's editable, be it for text or vector and I am sure this is again causing another problem. I would stay clear of Publisher for placing PDF's, there are just too many potential issues at the moment. If you do need to place it in Publisher I would recommend converting to high res JPEG or some other flattened image. You lose all editing capabilities of course.
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With the tests I did with files I would normally use and get from clients, Word file PDF's were the worst. As I mentioned before I would not trust Publisher at the moment for any real work that needed PDF's placed in Publisher as there is just too much that could go wrong and the time spent trying to fix or catch any mistakes is just not worth it at this point. If you do not need to retain editing capabilities you could outline all fonts to curves if you have Acrobat DC, but at that point you probably have an Adobe CC subscription and would just say stick with Indesign till Publisher fixes this little "feature"
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Something to watch for as well when placing PDF's in publisher is it makes the PDF editable and does not use embedded PDF fonts. Indesign lets you place your PDF's without the need for the font to be on your system, Publisher on the other hand does not as it is trying to be a PDF editor as well as page layout software. If you have the fonts though and can activate them in some font management software you should be fine. Just be sure to give everything an extra look over as things can go wonky when importing PDF's in Publisher.
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There is no conspiracy here. You really think Affinity is going to be doing this on demos? Paying someone to monitor individual demo accounts or coding in crashing? Even if you left it running to keep it going eventually you are going to need to restart your computer and your demo will come to an end. Same goes for crashing, nothing particular needs to be happening for it to crash, I have random crashes in Indesign, Illustrator and Photoshop... though it is not common it does happen. No one cares enough about you and your usage of demo software to make sure it crashes so you cannot use it anymore without buying it.
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Has the program been open for a while? Maybe it was the crash which forced you to restart it that made it stop. Not sure if that would be a work around the trial by just leaving the app running, all I can think of.

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Looks like you have a font issue. Just as a test, can you change the font to something standard like Arial or Times New Roman and see how it exports?