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    Bez Bezson reacted to eobet in Affinity products for Linux   
    Windows 10 is probably the last Microsoft OS I will install. The adware and spyware in 11+ is too much for me.
    Counting software I use, Affinity (and one other piece of software) are the only remaining holdouts without native Linux versions. How the tides have changed!
    +1 for official Linux support.
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    Bez Bezson reacted to Leigh in Affinity products for Linux   
    This thread has been flagged numerous times over the years but more so over the past month. I don't want to give out warnings or lock this thread but I wanted to clarify Affinity’s position regarding some of the topics that are the cause of heated exchanges which get subsequently reported to moderators.

    Affinity do not have an issue with users trying to get our apps working on Linux, as long as users are aware that Affinity won’t be offering any support or advice on how to get our apps working or how to improve performance via WINE etc.
    Feel free to use this thread as a way of sharing information that may be useful to other Affinity users trying to get the apps running on Linux but as we’ve stated numerous times, we have no plans to bring our apps to Linux, so it’s pointless arguing and getting frustrated with each other.

    I would also like to state that if you’re not a fan of Linux or have no intention/interest in wanting/trying to get our apps working on Linux, perhaps you should avoid this thread completely.
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    Bez Bezson reacted to gukosowa in Affinity products for Linux   
    Still can't wait to have a working solution. Bottle looks promising!
    As a Web Developer i really miss nothing in Linux, just the ease of affinity programs for making the graphics 😅
    Btw why there are ppl against the port? Does it hurt to have more options? It must be a market, or else nobody would invest in it, even Microsoft wouldn't do. I remember most people, me included, were feared to go Linux because #1 missing Game Support and #2 missing enterprise software. #1 is tackled by valve ❤️ #2 looking to serif. When this done, having the freedom to choose the OS not bound to it's 3rd party software is a nice thing! Why the counter words 😅
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    Bez Bezson reacted to MattyWS in Affinity products for Linux   
    Once again, predictable trolling and a lack of reading the conversation on your part.
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    Bez Bezson reacted to bananayoshimoto in Affinity products for Linux   
    I hope you Linux guys will eventually get Affinity working 100% through Wine. No harm done and Serif gets to sell even more copies at no extra development cost.
    There’s always some users being against stuff if it’s not benefiting them personally; when I asked for certain missing (and quite crippling) Affinity features on iPad I got the absurd response from a folk here that iPad doesn’t deserve better. Oh well.
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    Bez Bezson reacted to Xatonym in Affinity products for Linux   
    So I tried out Photo, Designer and Publisher in Bottles today (a Wine frontend) with the latest caffe-7.10-1 runner, and they all successfully installed and ran. I can open, edit, save and export documents like I can on Windows. Affinity Publisher can open large documents without crashing.
    One big issue at the moment seems to be that the GUI is very glitchy and acts up when you hover over certain elements. Often entire windows can go black and only certain elements can show depending on what part of the window your mouse cursor is. Another issue is that clicking the "Edit in Photo/Designer/Publisher" option in the menu brings up an error message saying "Failed to launch designer - Could not hand over the file to the other application."
    All in all, a big improvement over the last time I tried to get it running in Wine a couple of months ago, in which it wouldn't even run at all. We're not there just yet, but I have a feeling we're getting close.
     
    Here are some screenshots: https://imgur.com/a/k3XpPuF
     
     
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    Bez Bezson reacted to MattyWS in Affinity products for Linux   
    It doesn't matter how big or small you think the linux userbase is, Wine is for people who want to use Windows applications, if the community gets Affinity working via Wine it will cost Serif zero money and people will happily be able to buy Affinity and use it on Linux, Your hatred for linux in this instance is unwarranted, pointless and proves you aren't simply thinking about Serifs money being "wasted" on a platform you clearly don't use, you're apparently just here to hate for the sake of it. Your comments are pointless and I think you know it, stop wasting everyones time.
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    Bez Bezson reacted to the.ckb in Affinity products for Linux   
    I know I'm just one user, so this opinion is virtually worthless, but my reality is that the only thing keeping me in the Apple and Microsoft ecosystems is that Adobe and Serif don't offer Linux versions. If I could use RHEL/Ubuntu/Pop/whatever, I would in a heartbeat. Instead, all that's offered is GIMP, and no, that's not an effective substitute for Affinity or Adobe CC.
    I don't know if this has already been said in the last 90 pages, but not supporting Linux is a self-fulfilling prophecy: Companies don't develop apps for Linux because it has too little market share, and it has small market share because users cannot get the apps needed for their workflow in Linux. We won't know if Affinity/Adobe for Linux will take off until it happens and sees adoption.
    But it's always been said that Linux will never be viable for gaming because any studio would be stupid to develop for it because no gamers use it. Then Valve entered the chat with SteamOS, and now that it's had time to mature into 3.0, and SteamDeck exists to democratize a small-form-factor gaming system running on Linux, gaming on Linux is getting ever more popular. It's become an actual contender.
    Obviously, Affinity isn't a game studio, but it's the same catch-22. I think Serif is in a better position to show, "hey, this is viable," compared to Adobe. And they could easily acquire a lot of Adobe customers begging for a Linux equivalent.
    That's just me, though.
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    Bez Bezson reacted to Snapseed in Affinity products for Linux   
    This is where there is an unfortunate Catch 22 situation. I have heard this so many times, "I'd like to move over to Linux but I need X, Y, and Z software to do my work" where X is Affinity Photo/Adobe Photoshop, Y is Affinity Designer/Adobe Illustrator and Z is Affinity Publisher/Adobe InDesign and even just working well with Wine would meet the needs of those people.
    There is also another route to take if Linux users have some spare time to help out.
    CodeWeavers are now looking for what they call BetterTesters to submit user reports about the performance of their favourite games and applications (in this case the three Affinity applications) on the latest release beta development versions of CrossOver (commercial Wine).
    More details can be found here:
    https://www.codeweavers.com/bettertester
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    Bez Bezson reacted to Renzatic in Affinity products for Linux   
    WINE Is Not an Emulator! It's even says so in the name!
    Though WINE is fairly performant compared to their Windows counterpart. You usually get native, or 99% native performance out of applications running through it. On rare occasions, you actually get better performance.
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    Bez Bezson reacted to MattyWS in Affinity products for Linux   
    I hate to be that guy but wine isn't an emulator, it's literally in the name. Applications running through wine vary from being borked to actually running faster via wine linux than on windows natively. Wine will only really get better and more efficient over time. Protons the same, in some games I play, playing via proton on linux yields better performance with far more FPS, much to my surprise. It's magic to me as I have no idea really how it works but it's just a translation layer, not an emulator (which usually require your hardware specs be far beyond that of the platform you're trying to emulate).
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    Bez Bezson reacted to msdobrescu in Affinity products for Linux   
    No idea about Steinberg, MS Office I don't need as LibreOffice has all I need. Also RawTherapee or DarkTable and Hugin are fine, I just need a better panorama application and Photoshop was so good so far. The irony is Photoshop works fine under Linux, its integration with the logon is the problem, technically, to run it under Wine.
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    Bez Bezson reacted to MattyWS in Affinity products for Linux   
    this is meme worthy logic.

    The number of Affinity users (Windows) is even less than the number of Windows users. Pack it up Serif there's no point in making software when 100% of the people on the platform wont use it lol
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    Bez Bezson reacted to Kajac in Affinity products for Linux   
    I partially disagree with what you're saying.
    SERIF is fully capable of providing support to run.
    Even if it is using Linux X, with kernel X and with minimum hardware X.
    PlayOnLinux and Lutris are here!
    Regarding performance, there's nowhere to flee, both in windows and macOS have limitations, especially if we take into account the end user's hardware!
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    Anyway, for users who defend against, I still don't see any sense in it! Why don't you want it to run on linux?
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    Bez Bezson reacted to Kajac in Affinity products for Linux   
    But you might change your mind because this topic has been around for 5 years.
    They are the owners of the forum, they can create a script or the moderation itself to close the linux topics as they already do!
    That's it... Today people are already able to make some older versions of Affinity Designer work through PlayOnLinux and Lutris, something that sometimes depending on the distro has bugs that the user can't solve, at that moment I would enter the SERIF with minimal support , as the problems I have are things I can't disable from within the tool.
    So how difficult would it be to provide support?
    Today heavy and problematic games like League OF Legends and GTA V run on linux, using PlayOnLinux and Lutris.
    Valve has Proton which is a free project and does not create the game from scratch.
    There are ways to make it work! But is it really that difficult to provide minimal support?
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    Bez Bezson reacted to MattyWS in Affinity products for Linux   
    I disagree.. every company has to consider the pros and cons of platforms and how much money they need to spend on staffing. We've established Linux is used by a lot of the creative industry as well so I think it's fair to compare other companies that make creative softwares to this company that also makes creative softwares and just because Adobe does or doesn't do something doesn't mean anything more or less for Serif.
     
    You say adobe don't develop for linux so why should serif? Well Adobe also specialize in 3D, game development, film production, music etc etc so if Serif are copying them then maybe they should waste money on making software like that too, right? Either they copy Adobe or they don't I don't think you can have it both ways. This may just be a difference in opinion but Serif have said they don't want to be compared to Adobe. I mean if we're going there then why even use Affinity products at all if Adobe exists? Serif *need* to do things differently to Adobe to stand out otherwise they may as well not exist.

    The numbers of professionals who use Affinity Photo compared to Photoshop are probably on par with the numbers of people who use Windows or Linux. May as well expand into a new platform where Adobe doesn't exist.

    Anyways this really comes down to opinions in the end. Other companies have thrived while making a Linux version of their software I don't think it will kill Serif, but ultimately it's their choice and heck, Serif already make choices that are extreme opposites of what I'd consider good (no good alpha/channel editing? No real support for channel packing? Basic stuff people need that serif claim no one needs and so they don't want to include it). Nothing I or anyone can do other than voice their wants and needs and it's on the whim of serif to decide to listen or not.

    I dont think I or anyone else needs to convince the forum users here if Linux is a good idea. You guys are entitled to like Windows or Mac and nothing else but it's still super weird how passionate some people are about hating Linux for no gain.
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    Bez Bezson reacted to MattyWS in Affinity products for Linux   
    in all fairness, the number of linux users is in the several billions (that were able to be counted, which is quite difficult to count when linux typically doen't track users). How many of those people need a photo editor I dont know but it'd be unfair to say there's only a few hundred.
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    Bez Bezson reacted to MattyWS in Affinity products for Linux   
    yes, one way or another you would likely have used linux be it chromeOS, Android, maybe you have cloud storage which is likely linux so it's used in the billions though obviously desktop users would be less. I can probably do some basic maths here just out of curiosity, if 250,000,000 computers are sold each year and about only 2% of those are going to linux users thats 5,000,000 linux users a year. Even if just 1% of that userbase wanted to use affinity photo (not including the rest of the suit) thats 50,000 sales a year, which would be at least £2,500,000 at £50 a sale each year. high numbers for 1% of the linux userbase. Maybe my numbers are wrong as they're really just estimates, which is why I mentioned if only 1% were interested because at least then it'd be fair if I overestimated the userbase.

    Regardless, still more than a few hundred people like the guy above mentioned. I think it's only fair Linux get some credit as it's used world wide by a lot of people, even if it's only a small percentage of the global PC market.
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    Bez Bezson reacted to MattyWS in Affinity products for Linux   
    I I wouldn't say people showing an unwavering interest in something is pestering. Most of us here have accepted Serif doesn't care about Linux, at this point I just see this as a discussion thread about the potential of it. I still don't really understand why people are coming into this thread to be outraged at people that have an interest in a different platform to them though. "How dare you keep showing interest in linux!! How dare you want your favourite software on on the OS you use!!!" - These are senseless comments and, I mean no offense to you here but yours too. Likening people to entitled children throwing a fit for wanting affinity on linux and discussing it? Apart from comments like these, this is mostly a grown up conversation. I use linux as a platform professionally as do many other creatives. There is a discussion to be had about the potential of it IMO. It's cool if you don't think this discussion is worthwhile, you don't need to get involved if you don't care about the topic. :)
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    Bez Bezson reacted to Kajac in Affinity products for Linux   
    I've been using affinity designer for 2 years (I have both Windows and macOS versions) and I still don't understand why they don't help people using affinity on linux.
    Either by lutris or by linux. Since they don't want to make a version of linux because it's no use running using these tools.
    I'm against having to create a virtual machine for this or having dual boot.
    Anyway, there's no shortage of people to use affinity in linux!
    It's sad to see here on this forum people making fun of anyone who wants to use linux!
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    Bez Bezson reacted to kamanderside in Affinity products for Linux   
    Win11 is essentially putting the kabosh on older processors, and that's including relatively recent ones that are younger than my AMD FX-4###. It will still be useable, but performance is going to be quashed severely.
     
    Was dual-booting Ubuntu on my Vista laptop back before I built my desktop :P. Only fully switched back to Windows when I got a copy of 7 through school and started playing games on Steam.

    But yeah, been watching quite a bit of Linus Tech Tips (LTT) lately, esp. on Win11 and the new Framework laptop (option to come as a DIY kit and can install your own components/OS). Even if the Framework startup company were to fail, one can still do a lot of the repairs/replacements that would be near impossible to an end user on a typical laptop.

    Linux distros have come a long way in being user-friendly recently (use it on our entertainment PC that's hooked up to our TV), and even Steam gaming is getting serious about cross-compatibility with Linux, adding functionality without having to use WINE. If I were forced to get a new computer, the Framework Laptop running Pop! Linux would be my current go-to. My copy of 10 is locked to my current system, so either way I'll have to buy a copy when I'm someday ready to move to more recent hardware, and just making a donation to my fav Linux distro would be so much nicer.

    Linus of LTT was going to give Linux as a daily driver a go to see if he could handle a full-time, perma switch from Windows, something I'll be watching closely.
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    Bez Bezson reacted to Pufty in Affinity products for Linux   
    Then I hope it does soon enough. I'm ready to pay for the software again on another platform just for the sake of comfort.
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    Bez Bezson reacted to msdobrescu in Affinity products for Linux   
    Actually we came here to ask for a Linux version. It's our right to ask. You are here just to discourage those people. Linux has advanced in those 5 years, although it was just reliable then as it is now. You may say what you want, this won't change the facts.
    A question: why nVidia open-sourced its drivers? Try imagine the implications of this.
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    Bez Bezson reacted to Snapseed in Affinity products for Linux   
    As someone once said about Krita over at Digital Photography Review, "It is photoeditor hidden in paint application..."
    https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4105149
    In terms of equivalents to Affinity Publisher, there are some alternatives on Linux, the most widely known of which is Scribus:
    https://www.scribus.net/
    However, it is not the only one and PageStream is one alternative although it does have an old school interface:
    https://pagestream.org/
    Lucidpress is an online equivalent so it is available to Linux users:
    https://www.lucidpress.com/pages/
    The alternative that has impressed me the most though is VivaDesigner that has a Linux version:
    https://www.viva.us/en/products/desktop-publishing/vivadesigner-desktop-version

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    Bez Bezson reacted to dhdus in Affinity products for Linux   
    Since 15 years I try to switch my primary OS to Linux. Every time limited by a good Design Suite, GPU performance and Games. GPU Acceleration came with driver support. The breakthrough in games came with Steam using reliable GPU Acceleration. Now my design workflow is the last limiting part.
    I know, that there are multiple solutions for different parts of my profession, but none of them is streamlined enough. If you would publish your Software on Linux, I could finally hop my complete workflow to Debian. I would buy your app again, even though I have already bought every application from Serif for my Windows, and MacOS Machines.
    Maybe you could test if there would be a suitable marked for Serif, by developing just one app for Linux. Starting progressive with only the limited core functionality as a beta demo.
    I am a freelance graphic designer from Germany, and studied visual communication.
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