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rhmb

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  1. Not necessarily. For example, I have On1 Photo Raw 2022. On1 Photo Raw 2023 can read and work with files from On1 2022 and previous years but the older years cannot open files from the 2023 version. Same thing with Lightroom.
  2. Any chance of posting the recommended workarounds in the faq or as a sticky or somewhere? The issues between Apple Photos and Affinity keep cropping up on a regular basis and it would help if the workarounds were easier to find rather than searching through the forum or hoping another user will answer the question.
  3. There are some hit and miss work arounds, some of which work for some not for others. Sometimes but not always. Even more frustrating is the fact that this bug, which seems to be an all but permanent feature of the Edit in Affinity Photo mode, affects some users but not others. Who, why and when ...... good question. Are you using the extension correctly? Probably yes. Is the extension responding correctly? See error message above.
  4. Another work around that I found useful if I run into problems trying to save Affinity edits to Apple Photos, is the "External Editors for Photos" app. Even though this is a four year old app designed for High Sierra, it is still available on the Apple App store and costs peanuts (around $2 USD) and seems to run well on Big Sur. It was originally designed for use for apps that did not have extensions for Apple Photos. I use it from time to time for Affinity, as well as Silver FX from the old (free) Google Nik collection. It may (or may not) be more or less the same as using Edit with instead of Edit in but it works so I haven't really bothered to figure out the difference.
  5. I have been using On1 for a year now and it has been a pretty decent replacement for Lightroom and before that Aperture. It’s not without its own issues (as with all software) but that’s a topic for the On1 community forum. Affinity is more of a Photoshop replacement, On1 is more like Lightroom and Elements and a bit of Photoshop all in one package. Affinity and On1 both have their strong and their weak points. Getting back to Affinity .... a problem that some (including me) have had is that if you try to re-open an image previously edited or developed using Affinity inside Apple Photos, Affinity opens the original image and not the edited image. The only work around that I am aware of for this is to do a minor edit (using Photos) to the Affinity edited image before re-opening it in Affinity. This effectively freezes the Affinity edits in place so you can work with the edited image (you can, however, still revert to the original in Apple Photos if need be). This article may be of interest (written by a former developer of Aperture) https://tidbits.com/2019/06/14/the-ins-and-outs-of-non-destructive-editing-in-photos-for-mac-and-ios/
  6. The ‘16MB change limit exceeded’ question crops up from time to time but unfortunately remains unanswered. It does not seem to have any impact on the image that is saved but given the somewhat opaque workings of the Apple/Affinity interface, it is difficult to say. It’s hard to know what exactly is going on, because if all you’ve done is develop a raw image, there are no layers to flatten (at least, I don’t think so). Here is a extract from a similar post by AndyA dated 29 Feb 2020 .... and which - to use the same phrase as AndyA, is still “knocking around” unanswered by Affinity: ”It would be nice if someone from Affinity answered the question about what the "16MB change limit exceeded - document will be flattened" message means, given it's been knocking around for a while.”
  7. I agree that Olympus Workspace has limitations (although for a free raw editor, it’s not bad). I use it mostly for importing photos from my EM 10ii to my iMac using wifi but that is very slow compared to using a card reader so I use it only when I have just a few photos to upload. I also agree with you on the quality of Olympus jpgs. I play around with raw once in awhile but nine times out of ten jpg fits the bill for my needs. I use Apple Photos for album sharing and slideshows but my main DAM and editor is On1 Photo Raw. Migrating over from Lightroom and learning On1 has kept me too occupied to do much with Affinity so far, unfortunately. I did try the Retroactive hack that adapts Aperture to Catalina and Big Sur and was surprised at how well Aperture performed even now .... but there’s no getting around the fact that using a hack, even a good hack, is a risky venture so that was really just a bit of playing around.
  8. Within Apple Photos, instead of using “Edit with ....”, you might have better luck with either the Affinity Develop extension or the Edit in Affinity Photo extension. The extensions are usually preferable to “Edit with ... .” That said, editing with Affinity from within Apple Photos can, at times, be problematic and gets into issues like the notifications you are receiving. For more on these issues, I recommend you do a search on Apple Photos in these fora. Another option would be to use Olympus Workspace to develop the raw image and then export it as a jpg or TIFF to your application of choice. Olympus Workspace is free with your Olympus Camera and is actually fairly good for what it does. And yes, Affinity Document files can be very large.
  9. Apple Photos may or may not be what you are looking for but it does handle raw quite well. Also, it is not required to use the cloud with Apple Photos, you can store all your work on your computer. Presumably you already own Affinity. Affinity plus Apple Photos covers a fairly broad spectrum, although some users have experienced some persistent bugs with the Affinity extensions. Regardless of what direction you decide to go, my one piece of advice is similar to that given above by user_0815. Export and save good quality jpgs or tiffs of all your edits and keep them somewhere safe, before migrating your library to another app. Save your originals too. I understand your concerns about subscription based software. That said, unless you go with one of the open source solutions, Apple Photos (free for Mac owners) or something like Adobe Bridge (also free, but it is only a DAM), there are inevitably upgrade costs from time to time.
  10. I have the opposite experience. The Develop extension will not save edits to raw photos but the Edit in Affinity extension does - most of the time. But since the Edit in Affinity extension cannot be relied upon to save edits every time, and since the Develop extension cannot fulfil its primary purpose which is to develop raw photos, I no longer use either within Apple Photos.
  11. Hard to say how much the issue is with Apple and how much with Affinity. That said, the On1 Photo Raw extension works flawlessly with Apple photos as does External Editors for Photos (dates back to High Sierra days but still works with Catalina ....not bad for a $1.50 app).
  12. No argument that LR may be the standard to beat. That said, On1 Photo Raw 2020 (and probably others) is hot on their heels. I migrated over to On1 earlier this year to replace LR 6.14 which was no longer supported on Mac Catalina. Overall On1 has met expectations as a replacement as DAM and for tasks formerly done with Adobe Elements. As I understand it, On1 interfaces with AP in much the same way as does LR. On1 can send files to and from AP in psd, jpg or TIFF format but it cannot read the AP format. Photos sent to AP for editing must either be flattened to save back to On1 in a compatible format or saved separately in AP format if one wants to keep the layers.
  13. I can’t speak to that as I do not have Photoshop, only Elements and LR. I have not found Catalina to be more buggy than previous versions for anything other than Affinity. The biggest change that affected me and perhaps many others was that 32 bit apps will not work on Catalina. Before upgrading users are encouraged to confirm whether any of the apps they use would be incompatible with Catalina. The two Affinity extensions which have issues with Catalina are Affinity Develop, which does not work with raw photos but does work with jpg (which don’t need developing) and Edit in Affinity, which in some circumstances for some photos does not want to save the edit. There are a number of threads on the bug forum and the desktop forum on this. The other extensions seem to work ok. I suspect part of the problem with them solving the Affinity bugs in Apple Photos is that it only seems to affect some users.
  14. I'm running Photos 5, the version that comes with Catalina. Using Affinity within Apple Photos has been hit and miss, sometimes the work arounds work, sometimes there are surprises. So I don't use it with Apple Photos anymore. If I need to use Affinity, I'll use it in stand alone mode or with the External Editors for Apple Photos app, an app that dates back to High Sierra times but still does the job with Catalina. I knew before upgrading to Catalina that LR and my older version of Adobe Elements would be problematic as 32 bit applications do not work with Catalina. Although LR 6.14 (which is 64 bit) can work in Catalina as long as it was installed before upgrading to Catalina, it is not supported by Adobe and components such as the installers and the application manager are 32 bit, so ever anything went wrong, it would have been impossible to re-install LR. My initial plan was to switch to Apple Photos for the DAM and basic edits and use Affinity Photos for more advanced edits. That worked for a couple of weeks with Mojave but fell apart with the upgrade to Catalina and the subsequent issues between Apple Photos and Affinity (unlike some, I didn't have any issues with Mojave, they started with Catalina). I then discovered On1 and it pretty much does everything I need for now as both my DAM and my main editing application. I'm not a power user so it works for me.
  15. With regard to Lightroom like products, I switched to On1 Photo Raw in early 2020 as a result of incompatibility between LR 6.14 and Catalina. I am very pleased with On1 Photo Raw to date. As a DAM it is very similar to LR, the migration of edits worked better than I expected, and with its layers capability it also takes care of the relatively light Photoshop-type tasks I used to do with Adobe Elements.
  16. Very much regret to confirm that there are still problems with Affinity Photo extensions in Apple Photos, in particular Edit in Affinity Photo and Affinity Develop. It seems unlikely there is a fix in line anytime soon, indeed, it seems to be very low on the priority.
  17. I have not had this error message but whenever I attempt to develop a raw photo in Affinity Develop by way of Apple Photos I get the all too familiar (to some of us) "Unable to edit with ..." error message. The only way I have been able to develop raw photos (including Olympus ORF) from Apple Photo using Affinity is by using the Edit in Affinity Photo extension (which has its own problems as noted in many many threads). To the best of my understanding, the Affinity Develop extension has a known bug which leaves it unable to Develop raw photos but allows it to develop jpg (which, of course, do not need developing per se). I opened a thread on this around mid-March in the Bugs in Mac OS forum, one of the moderators (MEB), noted that this was a known issue. Doesn't help your situation but may be related. My experience, which is admittedly limited, is that Apple Photos develops raw photos just as capably as Affinity.
  18. This bug has been noted in several threads in the bugs in Mac OS forum. Last comment that I am aware of was from MEB on 19 March stating that the development team are aware of the bug. If you are lucky enough to have a working version of the Edit in Affinity Photo extension to Apple Photos, you could try developing the raw photo using that. The Édit in Affinity Photo extension is also better suited than the Develop extension for jpegs. Be aware, however, that there are issues for some Mac users with the Edit in Affinity Extension resulting in similar error messages. That said, Apple Photos does as good if not better job than Affinity in developing raw photos.
  19. There are a number of threads about this bug with numerous work arounds some of which work some of the time for some of the people but none of which work for all of the people all of the time. The only certainty is that in a week or so another new thread will be started as someone else “discovers” that Edit in Affinity Photos does not work well with Apple Photo. And arguably, as time moves on, so too perhaps the likelihood that there is no fix. Surely it is well past time for the Affinity staff to be more transparent and open about this and include a warning on both the Apple store and Affinity store about this long standing issue. Judging by the number of recurring threads, far too many users of Apple photos are getting needlessly bitten by a bug which they should be warned about before buying the product. Even if only a minority (as we are led to believe) are impacted. How many users, like myself for instance, have simply given up on using Affinity Photo extensions within Apple Photos? And in fact, because of this, discovered another photo editing application which meets most of their needs? Surely part of the process for finding a fix should also include making more of an effort to determine if there are any common factors at play with those affected. I see very little attempts by developers to ask any follow on questions of those of us that are affected.
  20. It sounds like you are experiencing the same bug with Edit in Affinity Photos extension that has been reported in several threads in this forum and In the bugs in Affinity Photo forum (Mac OS). Not all users are affected. It also does not seem to affect extensions such as Haze Removal. Affinity Develop also has reported problems for raw photos.
  21. I am unclear as to how the AP team came to a conclusion that there does not appear to be a common factor here.
  22. A frustrating aspect of all this is, despite the fact the AP developers acknowledge that these issues affect « a select group of users », there does not seem to be much effort to follow up in any detail with users in this select group to try and see if a common element can be found. Failing that, can we at least be assured that the AP team have been able to replicate these problems in-house?
  23. Hi vincenthird, there are several workarounds that work for some but there doesn’t seem to any one single fix-all solution. I suggest search through some of the threads on Affinity and Apple Photos here and in the bug forums and look for workarounds that relate to your work flow. Some have had success with Edit with Affinity Photo instead of Edit in ...., others have used an older but still workable app External Editors for Photos (it only costs a dollar or two), still others use variations on exporting the edits and saving back to Apple and so on and so on.
  24. My apologies if my comment implied that Affinity was not at all compatible with Catalina. As a user, I was referring to the challenges some have had when using Affinity with Apple Photos, not to the overall compatibility of Affinity with the Mac OS. I may also have interpreted too broadly your statement that the issue with Apple Photo was fixed. Obviously you were referring to one set of issues (or just one issue); I was referring to others. It is encouraging to hear that these are being worked on. And on a positive note, I confirm that I have had no problems to date using Affinity both as a stand alone and in conjunction with my main photo management and editing app (which is not Apple Photo) on a Catalina Mac.
  25. This statement is contradicted in several threads, with issues acknowledged by other AP staff. The Edit in Affinity Photo extension has several major issues requiring work around for some users. Affinity Develop does not, for some users, work with raw photos. Discouraging to read that some AP staff apparently believe the issues with Apple Photos have been fixed while other staff members have acknowledged in other threads that there are problems with Apple Photos that the dev team is trying to fix.
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