Sanderguy777
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Sorry for the late reply. I took it in to him and he seemed to think it was fine. He got all the drivers and stuff set up too, so that's good. I've been slowly transferring files to a new 8tb external drive and to an online backup place. It's slow, but not the computer's fault and is almost over. Once the photos are off the old drives, I can put a few on the internal drive and edit, then put them back. Thank you for all the advice and help. I really appreciate it! BTW, is there a good resource you've found for Affinity photo tutorials? I mean specific youtube channels etc. I have the book, but haven't looked at it yet...
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Ok. I'll take it I today. Then I'll be through with the mess and have a working machine. It IS fast though! I got 86mb/s transfers onto a SLOW external hdd from a sdxc uhs2 card. That's 2 or 3 times the speed my laptop did! 1gb in like 10 seconds! Thanks for your help. I will take it in cause I'm obviously missing something and I need to have the thing fixed so I can stop worrying and concentrate on math...
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Basically, I just want the thing to work. The AIO is easy and as long as it fits in the case (it should) i can use it for the next 5 builds unless i go with a 6.2ghz Intel chip, then I'll just buy property in Antarctica and run some cables!
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Ok thanks. I'll give it a shot. I took the cooler off and reapplied paste wanting to see if that helped the thermals. But I didn't get back together. The stock cooler is misaligned with the holes in the backplate so only 3 of the 4 screws screw in. I'm done with that thing because I did it the first time and both times yesterday it wouldn't align either. So I'm picking up an AIO from Best buy that just clips in. There are tightening screws, but they are secondary to the clip that just works. I was looking at air coolers, but Best Buy only caries this Corsair h100i pro and I don't want to wait for shipping for an air tower that may or may not fit in the case and doesn't let my RAM fit... (I have learned my lesson though, never buying a super budget case again, mobo hole off by 1 mm, just enough to cause trouble, and the cable management holes barely let me work with them. Now, I have to try to get a cooler that fits the case.)
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I will have him look at it. I used the thermal paste that was on the cooler from the factory and mounted it correctly, but it moved a bunch because the screws didn't line up right. That may be the issue. From what I've heard of the wraith spire (the kit cooler I'm using) it works fine as long as you aren't looking to get negative temps or overclock a 2200g to 5.7ghz lol I'm using the bios to see the temp so I dont get to pick the cpu core or what kind of temp it shows. What app do you recommend?
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I ran it without the rgb originally, but only with the cpu and exhaust fan. I DID run it without the side panels (the case has solid panels on both sides. It is only open on top front and back). Also, I had to out of its cubby and it was constantly 52 and above. With and without the panels. I looked at watercooling, but it is way too expensive and the maintenance is too much (not to mention the leak hazard). So IF I need to change the cooler, I'm going with Noctua or beQuiet air coolers. It may not be the cleanest, but I may just leave the tinted panel off so the air cooler can have room to fit.
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The exhaust fan is really cheap, so replacing it will probably help a lot.
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Yes...... I'm like 80% sure. I was VERY careful to make sure which way everything was pointed, but I may have gotten it wrong on that one... I will check sometime tomorrow, but I'm not sure when.... It is expensive, but I'm considering an aio because our house is usually 70-80F (21-26C) and somewhat humid (60-80%, usually towards 60). The thing about the aio is that it cools the cpu regardless of whether the pump is going. So I should end up with a quieter system....but the $140 corsair h100i is too much. And I can't fit the Noctua collars in the case probably.
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I got the photo up. I was using a gmail window to try and send it through.... guess what! Gmail is for email, not sending photos. Anyway, the photo doesn't show the tinted side panel, but DOES show some rgb, and the best cable management I can do. (The case says it is compatible with atx but I think it is better suited for micro atx or mini itx since half the holes are covered by the mobo.... The cpu is now 56.5C in bios. I have the fans at about 50% but they dont seem to change much. I think that the one exhaust fan (I have 4 intakes through filters and 1 exhaust so that lass dust gets in) is not working well I barely feel any airflow from it, so I think I will pick up a high pressure model to push the air out the back better. This is the current setup and where the case will live...
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I had the fans connected, but they weren't powered (I just fixed the problem so they work now). It is at 59C now (idle) so I think I may take it in to my it friend to see his opinion. I did my best with the cable management, and there aren't any cables in the way of airflow so that shouldn't be the issue. I am going to get a fan splitter cable and run only 2 fans from each mobo pwm header in order to get the most control. As it is, 4 fans are running from a single pwm. I think the that the fans may be only working at a little of their intended speed. I did have a photo attached, but I wouldn't let me send it...not sure why. Tried again, but I get error -200 whatever that is...
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I just built this! Up and running! Just have to migrate photo editing stuff and photos over to the 2tb barracuda and then get to work!. As you can see... I did a little rgb. I don't like it when it's crazy on keyboards or spacing out and killing people with seizures, but a little tasteful light can't hurt lol Snappy 20 ish second boot. I dont know what cpu temps I should be looking for, but i think i heard something about new builds being hotter initially than when they get older....mine is like 53.5C idle with just the exhaust fan and cpu cooler no side panel. I just got the other 4 fans working (only 3 are rgb) so that should make it much cooler
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Ok. That is what is thought, but just curious about WHICH one to get when I do. I considered all 3 of the ones you said NOT to get, and reached the same conclusion (user benchmark gives the 560 or 570 with 8gb GRAM like 900% on everything compared to the 730!) Good to know about the price drop for GPUs! I'm glad I got the computer at this point and not earlier as I got the newest CPU. I will probably touch the hdd, but just long enough to wipe it and put it on Ebay LOL.
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So, this is what I have ended up with. The prices are a little off since I got the mobo AND CPU for $220 @ Newegg for their FantasTech sale. I also bought a 750w Antec PSU for $90, but I have a $30 off mail in rebate, so I should get that for $60... I haven't ordered the HDD yet, since I have the SSD from the laptop. I also have its HDD, but am afraid it won't work because it is like 7 years old ( I want to store photos, so not interested in using half broken parts for irreplaceable stuff LOL). What are your recommendations if I wanted a GPU? Again mainly photos, but also CAD. Thanks for all your help. I couldn't have done it without you guys!
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Wow! I've never really thought about how much power they use. Does your AMD system have a GPU?
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"By then, re-read the info here, in other places, and purchase as you see fit." Yep. If the 3xxxg cards are only a few bucks more, then I'll grab one of them, but otherwise I'll stick to the 2400g. From what I've heard, any b450 mobo that is cheap, works since I dont overclock. (I mean not "Chad's Budget Builds" brand, but Asus, Asrock, MSI, Gigabyte, etc)
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"You can ask your nieces and nephews to make some colored drawings. Cost is free, but also priceless. Put 'em on the walls. THAT would make the room prettier" that made my day! I will do that!
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I was looking for looks more than airflow originally, but now I think that getting a case at all is more important than the looks. And I have young nieces and nephews who stay in my room on vacations so glass is probably a bad idea to begin with lol. My old computer is a laptop. It is one of the newer, really slim 2in1s, so no expansion... I was thinking about getting a GPU enclosure that used the thunderbolt port and could just plug into a new machine, so thanks for letting me know that ain't happening. (I love how my phone won't auto current dont, but instantly fixes ain't and won't. Lol) Thanks for letting me know about the PCIe limitations. I noticed that in the mobo specs but it didn't occur to me till you did it. Yeah, 580 is the MOST I will go for. I was thinking maybe when I need it, get two 560s or 570s for crossfire. But really, by the time I get any graphics card, I could spent 30 bucks more and get the 580.... As far as pro cards, I will probably not even be in a engineering class for another year. I'm still in the calculus and physics requirements for the time being. But, I want to have a machine that can handle some form of it so I can tinker. So my plan is to get the bare minimum for a running machine and then add parts as I need them so I end up with a good machine in the end. I'm not familiar at all with the new CPUs from AMD. Are the ones you mentioned APUs or not? Thanks guys for all the help. I will probably start ordering parts soon, but I'm in a calculus class right now so the build will probably wait for a few weeks till I can breathe lol
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Yes... I have been doing that. But it is annoying enough to me that I am looking at the solution. Also, the port IS thunderbolt and a HDD (not ssd) that uses thunderbolt 3 is at least half of the new computer. But the last time I looked they were $300 plus for 1tb or so.... Also, my laptop is ok for photo editing, but underpowered for any CAD programs I will be using for engineering. (That is a future problem, but I can upgrade a desktop)
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Basically, I dont care about looks as long as it doesnt look like an 80s computer. I said Pentium, I dont think I said what version, but early 2000s. Like before 2005. Our area only gets to 95 farenheit and then we have AC. But no, California is not hot. It contains one of the hottest places on earth in it (death valley), but the state is pretty cool as Earth goes. Ok, so is the $40 case I linked good for airflow etc? If not, what about the white one?
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For the record, the case is only going to be under my desk, only the front showing. So looks don't matter all that much, but if I'm buying the case, I DON'T want one that looks like a "$500 gaming PC from Big Box Store A."
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Yeah, I am living with my parents for now (California housing prices. Ugh) So my dad wants me to save money. I can get the other parts on a piece by piece basis as money comes in, but the case I want to get now if I'm going to. Why do you recommend the new case? The old one is in good condition. Will the new one (like $30 one) have the risers etc? Or is that only good ($70 and up)? Is this one good? https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811853068?item=N82E16811853068 very most I can spend on the case. This one looks decent, has lots of space, but only one fan.... https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811853074
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https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Sanderguy777/saved/#view=K7t9GX I looked at the build again. And the prices changed. Like. All at once..... Is THIS a good setup? I have the case my moms computer was in. If that doesn't work then I'll just get a $30 whatever case. To sum up, just in the event prices change again, ANY b450, with the Ryzen 5 2400g, with a 450 or larger psu, and 2 4-or 8-GB sticks of (what mhz is good?) RAM. Those 4 part are probably all I can get for the time being. I just dont have the budget for anything else and since I have a 250gb ssd that probably still works, I'll just use that as the boot drive. I have never had a PC with anything more than 2133 ram (like that was the best it got). If I get 3200 and the PC only runs it at 2933 will that hurt it? I know it won't be as fast as possible, but it shouldn't physically hurt it right?
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https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Sanderguy777/saved/#view=K7t9GX That better? Sorry, I forgot. What kind of issues will I have with the 3200 ram vs the 2933? To be honest, I DO plan to upgrade, but not in a few months. Maybe Christmas time, but even that is probably not happening. I am wanting this to be like a year or two build.... I was telling the truth, no gaming. I have COD BO3, so I may plug it in to see what the machine can do, but I am not a gamer (i am a student in engineering school no less) and I will not be playing anything on it. I have an xbox, and am more than happy with the games I play on it. The RGB stuff is just cool looking, not for gaming, and nothing ridiculous, just fans that hopefully can be turned off if I want.
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I DO plan on a hdd. Not sure when, but I want to get a 3tb ish for photo storage. So....I guess forget the m.2 and put in a 3tb barracuda.
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I am currently at this build. I pieced it together, but feel free to correct me if there is a mistake.... or 20...LOL https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Sanderguy777/saved/K7t9GX I am only getting 16gb of RAM, but I want to let you see the two best prices I found, at least on brands I have heard of. The m.2 is questionable, I already have a 250gb SanDisk ssd that SHOULD work, but it is in a dead laptop, so I am not sure if it works or not. (my IT guy says he thinks it is the mobo that died so the ssd should be fine, but who knows) If this works, will I need to but cables etc for the parts, or do they come with?
