VectorVonDoom

Plenty read AI files nothing (???) reads afdesign files. Yes in theory Adobe could completely change their format but why would they possibly want to? The more people working with AI files the better.

I've system 8 on my machine, almost instantly loads and it is amazing that the graphics apps had so much functionality. Have been tempted to try some stuff with SuperPaint or similar. Shame there's no browser options worth using for these old OS's or it would sort of be tempting to buy an old "proper" mac.

They are not cash strapped (before the buyout), where did you get that from? However people saying they are sell-outs makes me laugh. If you had a company are were offered a butt load of money don't pretend you wouldn't bite their hands off and take it.

v2 may have made it more difficult for pirates to crack it (or not, I've no idea) but didn't do anything to stop them. The only thing it did stop was casual password sharing.

He was asking about installation problems not operational. I would hope by now that everyone knows about file compatibility or lack of.

It's weird that some people don't understand that not everyone is artistic even more weird when you see some of the efforts posted online, you would think they would understand!

Yes there's no problem running both versions, nothing to be careful of.

The forum whilst generally fine has a few that put me off visiting it again. I didn't notice a ban/ignore option but might have missed it. However for me there's no real requirement to visit any app forum, you can just use it.

v1 is always going to be fine activation wise as far as I'm aware as it just validates the serial number locally. v2 needs the activation server to still be up and running if you need to re-install on a new machine/os re-install. I can't imagine the server going any time soon but if they do ever decide to kill it off, as Adobe did for their old versions, then they could possibly change it to work as v1 did and send out serial numbers to customers. But I don't think that's something to worry about yet. Probably a bigger worry is if/when an os update breaks things (I'm looking at you Apple!). But that isn't any different to now.

I'll have another play with it sometime but like the majority I don't normally try apps every couple of months in the hope that they have improved enough unless perhaps there's some big announcement about how wonderful and non-buggy it is now.

End of Dec or early Jan, so I don't suppose it's massively better now.

A few people have mentioned that but it's way too buggy for me. Impressive that a one man band can add so much functionality but it's at the expense of quality.

As far as vector I did try my best with inkscape but it was a fairly horrible experience, to be fair it's only been going for 20+ years, so early days lol. But there's not a whole lot of choice even with perpetual license commercial vector apps and of that there are none that I'd choose to use. Perhaps I'll do something different like try one of the natural media apps which at the moment none of which are subscription. Or for you enjoying open source that would be krita but I think that has the usual horrible UX too.

Sort of true but depends what the price difference is. Academic for me as I simply won't be doing it. If (when) they go subscription I would have thought that's it's pretty unlikely it's going to be that cheap, possibly per app though. Subscription can be bad through to terrible, partly depends what happens if your subscription lapses. Some you just don't get any more updates, others it turns in to read only mode so you can still print, export etc but not edit, then you have the Adobe way where you're locked out of the app.

So no change to the pricing model "at this time" and v2 will get free updates (they have to be free, they can't suddenly switch model). So reading between those lines it really sounds as though v3 will be subscription or they would have simply said it will always be a one off payment model. My guess is that v3 will be along fairly quickly in comparison to how long v1 was around. Acquisitions rarely seem to be good news for customers but the acquired do nicely from it. Unfortunately when it comes to AD there aren't a whole lot of options to switch to, well not decent ones that are non-subscription. Unless you do simple things I've not come across any that I'd want to use, hopefully that will change. AP on the other hand there's plenty of choice. Of course until an OS update breaks things, which has happened before, then just keep using what you have and keep an eye on alternatives.

Thanks, it probably did take nearly as long as the main body but wasn't too bad.

This one was covered in table tennis bat rubber and the text on the top plate was also red.

A lot cheaper drawing them than owning them but they are nice to use.

A bit of tidying up including adding the external viewfinder. That will do.

A quick one keeping things simple, a few conical gradients etc. Might tidy things up if I decide I like it.

Thanks. I got the text pretty much warped correctly using the warp tool just some tweaks. The leather is sort of a bodge. I used one of the few vector textures that I’d created then layered/flipped/set blend modes. Didn’t look quite like I wanted and ended up with a grey gradient at the top set to reflect blend. Whilst the pattern isn’t the same as the real thing it looks pretty much like you’d expect. Didn’t want to spend ages doing it “properly”.

I don't usually bother showing the wireframe any more but some find it interesting. Turned off the leather texture and background and zoomed in a bit so you can see the camera lines.

Thanks, glad you like.

Decided to do this without blurs again whilst trying to keep it realistic. It made some things trickier but saved the time in not having to set a million blurs. Used AD v2 for the warped text.