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So...someone above suggested alternatives, one of which was VectorStyler. I downloaded the beta (it's only in beta now), and opened a PDF exported from AutoCAD. I did Select All, to rotate from portrait to landscape. VectorStyler crashed. I re-opened it, and there was a crash-report dialog. I filled it out and sent it. Almost immediately came an email, asking if I would send the offending PDF. I did so. The next morning, I got an email indicating that there was a new beta version, which should solve the problem, would I try it. Problem solved!
This is how customer support is supposed to work.

This was an interesting spurt of rage/enthusiasm.
I agree that the application is useless, for my purposes, without this feature. I've long ago moved on, but follow this forum thread, just to see who survives longest, me or this thread.

This was an interesting spurt of rage/enthusiasm.
I agree that the application is useless, for my purposes, without this feature. I've long ago moved on, but follow this forum thread, just to see who survives longest, me or this thread.

This was an interesting spurt of rage/enthusiasm.
I agree that the application is useless, for my purposes, without this feature. I've long ago moved on, but follow this forum thread, just to see who survives longest, me or this thread.

This was an interesting spurt of rage/enthusiasm.
I agree that the application is useless, for my purposes, without this feature. I've long ago moved on, but follow this forum thread, just to see who survives longest, me or this thread.

So...someone above suggested alternatives, one of which was VectorStyler. I downloaded the beta (it's only in beta now), and opened a PDF exported from AutoCAD. I did Select All, to rotate from portrait to landscape. VectorStyler crashed. I re-opened it, and there was a crash-report dialog. I filled it out and sent it. Almost immediately came an email, asking if I would send the offending PDF. I did so. The next morning, I got an email indicating that there was a new beta version, which should solve the problem, would I try it. Problem solved!
This is how customer support is supposed to work.

In my opinion, this is a distinction without a difference.

So...someone above suggested alternatives, one of which was VectorStyler. I downloaded the beta (it's only in beta now), and opened a PDF exported from AutoCAD. I did Select All, to rotate from portrait to landscape. VectorStyler crashed. I re-opened it, and there was a crash-report dialog. I filled it out and sent it. Almost immediately came an email, asking if I would send the offending PDF. I did so. The next morning, I got an email indicating that there was a new beta version, which should solve the problem, would I try it. Problem solved!
This is how customer support is supposed to work.

So...someone above suggested alternatives, one of which was VectorStyler. I downloaded the beta (it's only in beta now), and opened a PDF exported from AutoCAD. I did Select All, to rotate from portrait to landscape. VectorStyler crashed. I re-opened it, and there was a crash-report dialog. I filled it out and sent it. Almost immediately came an email, asking if I would send the offending PDF. I did so. The next morning, I got an email indicating that there was a new beta version, which should solve the problem, would I try it. Problem solved!
This is how customer support is supposed to work.

So...someone above suggested alternatives, one of which was VectorStyler. I downloaded the beta (it's only in beta now), and opened a PDF exported from AutoCAD. I did Select All, to rotate from portrait to landscape. VectorStyler crashed. I re-opened it, and there was a crash-report dialog. I filled it out and sent it. Almost immediately came an email, asking if I would send the offending PDF. I did so. The next morning, I got an email indicating that there was a new beta version, which should solve the problem, would I try it. Problem solved!
This is how customer support is supposed to work.

And what percentage of those new customers find themselves in the same boat as many others here - that they now have purchased a product which is unusable in many projects for which they purchased it? Increased purchases does not equal active users.
This is my circumstance: I cannot use AD for many of my projects just for this missing feature. And having no commitment - or even recognition of its inclusion on the timeline -  from the developers for the implementation of this (most requested) feature makes me unwilling to put in the effort to learn a new software package, when I may never be able to utilize it fully. 
My hope, and that of many others here, is to avoid the Adobe extortion/rental situation. Sadly, AD is not the solution to that.

And what percentage of those new customers find themselves in the same boat as many others here - that they now have purchased a product which is unusable in many projects for which they purchased it? Increased purchases does not equal active users.
This is my circumstance: I cannot use AD for many of my projects just for this missing feature. And having no commitment - or even recognition of its inclusion on the timeline -  from the developers for the implementation of this (most requested) feature makes me unwilling to put in the effort to learn a new software package, when I may never be able to utilize it fully. 
My hope, and that of many others here, is to avoid the Adobe extortion/rental situation. Sadly, AD is not the solution to that.

And what percentage of those new customers find themselves in the same boat as many others here - that they now have purchased a product which is unusable in many projects for which they purchased it? Increased purchases does not equal active users.
This is my circumstance: I cannot use AD for many of my projects just for this missing feature. And having no commitment - or even recognition of its inclusion on the timeline -  from the developers for the implementation of this (most requested) feature makes me unwilling to put in the effort to learn a new software package, when I may never be able to utilize it fully. 
My hope, and that of many others here, is to avoid the Adobe extortion/rental situation. Sadly, AD is not the solution to that.

The example of a CAD-sourced file needing further editing is only that, an example, albeit a good example due to the many complexities CAD files bring to the table. A useable vector-drawing program needs to include the tools necessary to select and manipulate various objects in >any< file is is asked to operate on; otherwise, there is no need to use that program.
And PDF has become a de facto file exchange format, (often the only format common to two drawing applications,) regardless of whether the PDF format was originally intended to be "digital paper."  In today's world, PDF is what we get, and we need to be able to manipulate objects contained in that file type.

The example of a CAD-sourced file needing further editing is only that, an example, albeit a good example due to the many complexities CAD files bring to the table. A useable vector-drawing program needs to include the tools necessary to select and manipulate various objects in >any< file is is asked to operate on; otherwise, there is no need to use that program.
And PDF has become a de facto file exchange format, (often the only format common to two drawing applications,) regardless of whether the PDF format was originally intended to be "digital paper."  In today's world, PDF is what we get, and we need to be able to manipulate objects contained in that file type.

Responding to JGD above, did you even get a response from Serif?
I just don't see how they expect AD to be a successful product, unless they are willing to address some (most) of these shortcomings. Unless it's a Ponzi-like scheme, where they continuously try to impress and attract new users, naive to the app's lack of full functionality (I'm looking at me...) and just never get around to the things that are important in a production environment.
Now, that would be a big disappointment.
Thanks, JGD, for being so articulate and persistent. 

Responding to JGD above, did you even get a response from Serif?
I just don't see how they expect AD to be a successful product, unless they are willing to address some (most) of these shortcomings. Unless it's a Ponzi-like scheme, where they continuously try to impress and attract new users, naive to the app's lack of full functionality (I'm looking at me...) and just never get around to the things that are important in a production environment.
Now, that would be a big disappointment.
Thanks, JGD, for being so articulate and persistent. 

Responding to JGD above, did you even get a response from Serif?
I just don't see how they expect AD to be a successful product, unless they are willing to address some (most) of these shortcomings. Unless it's a Ponzi-like scheme, where they continuously try to impress and attract new users, naive to the app's lack of full functionality (I'm looking at me...) and just never get around to the things that are important in a production environment.
Now, that would be a big disappointment.
Thanks, JGD, for being so articulate and persistent. 

I will chime in here, as new to Designer, and, I am hopeful, a recovering Illustrator user.
Until I had to search for - and fail to find - the "Select same <attribute>" function, I was fully committed to making Designer my only vector drawing tool - purchased the full edition, bought the book, thought I was in heaven. But now, seeing that this often-requested and >necessary< function has been on the wish list for going on five years, the bloom is off the rose. That it's not even on the time line is a deal-breaker.
Devs: please consider that there is a wide variety of use cases for Designer, and each user has unique needs, but the basics >must< be included for this to be a viable product.
/rant

I will chime in here, as new to Designer, and, I am hopeful, a recovering Illustrator user.
Until I had to search for - and fail to find - the "Select same <attribute>" function, I was fully committed to making Designer my only vector drawing tool - purchased the full edition, bought the book, thought I was in heaven. But now, seeing that this often-requested and >necessary< function has been on the wish list for going on five years, the bloom is off the rose. That it's not even on the time line is a deal-breaker.
Devs: please consider that there is a wide variety of use cases for Designer, and each user has unique needs, but the basics >must< be included for this to be a viable product.
/rant